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next year plus scheifele deal

Créé par: jasonliq
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 26 févr. 2022
Publié: 26 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
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WPG
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
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NYR
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Nemeth, Patrik
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
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any team that can take him
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26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 29
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Not close for scheifele
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26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 30
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Not close for scheifele


let the GM decide whats enough
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 30
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let the GM decide whats enough


Is that you?
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 31
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Is that you?


nope
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 32
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nope


Got it.
Then the Jets GM will politely tell you that it’s not enough.
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26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 33
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Got it.
Then the Jets GM will politely tell you that it’s not enough.


jack eichel got a roster player prospect a first and a 2nd scheifele isnt eichel
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 35
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This deal is even father away from being close for Scheifele.
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 36
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This deal is even father away from being close for Scheifele.


delusional lmao
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 36
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Quoting: jasonliq
jack eichel got a roster player prospect a first and a 2nd scheifele isnt eichel


Dumpster fire of Buffalo with a new gm, Winnipeg is in a different situation and a seasoned gm that may not want to acquire prospects for next gm.
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 38
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take out chytil and lundkvist and add lafreniere and schneider and we have a deal👍👍👍
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 38
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Dumpster fire of Buffalo with a new gm, Winnipeg is in a different situation and a seasoned gm that may not want to acquire prospects for next gm.


nils would be on the team the second he got there
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 39
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take out chytil and lundkvist and add lafreniere and schneider and we have a deal👍👍👍


yeah......
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 39
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jack eichel got a roster player prospect a first and a 2nd scheifele isnt eichel


Vegas carried a lot of risk that Eichel would never play hockey again if the surgery didn’t work. Also factor in his salary hit and that limited the teams interested thereby limiting return. Scheifele is 4M cheaper for 3 playoff runs. A lot more teams can fit that kind of player in their cap structure meaning bids go up.
The proposal above really doesn’t address any of Pegs needs. Nils would be ok but we already have too many small offensive defenders.
I must admit, I don’t expect a huge return for FeFe, but the above proposal is woefully inadequate as it does not have a prime piece coming back like Laffy or Schneider.
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26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 39
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Quoting: jasonliq
delusional lmao


I think every poster here has been trying to tell you you're delusional without using the word, but since you've admitted it, that's the first step to making reasonable offers.
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26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 41
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jack eichel got a roster player prospect a first and a 2nd scheifele isnt eichel


Scheifele doesn’t cost $10 million. Scheifele didn’t just have controversial back surgery. Scheifele and Eichel are pretty darn close in point production with Eichel being better than Schief defensively.
BUF insisted on Krebs. I’m sure VGK offered other young prospects before Krebs was added.
The Jets would insist on it starting with Schneider.
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 42
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nils would be on the team the second he got there


No room on blueline currently, but will be interesting after deadline and draft. Chevy on his last legs, so wIll be interesting to see what his next moves are to try to buy him a few more years.
26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 43
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I think every poster here has been trying to tell you you're delusional without using the word, but since you've admitted it, that's the first step to making reasonable offers.


ranger fans will say its to much Winnipeg fans will say its not enough you really cant win with these things
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26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 47
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ranger fans will say its to much Winnipeg fans will say its not enough you really cant win with these things


This is as true of a CapFriendly statement that exists.
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26 févr. 2022 à 18 h 48
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ranger fans will say its to much Winnipeg fans will say its not enough you really cant win with these things


Find a deal that both sides hate, then you found the g spot.
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26 févr. 2022 à 19 h 9
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ranger fans will say its to much Winnipeg fans will say its not enough you really cant win with these things


True, but you can at least try to find out what the other team needs and see if you can match that. Just adding players that you want to get rid of from your team while ignoring the other team's needs, isn't usually realistic.

Especially when you try to use a completely different trade situation that has no similarities to your offer as a comparable.
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26 févr. 2022 à 19 h 10
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This isn’t anywhere close to scheif value
26 févr. 2022 à 19 h 12
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Scheifele is going to cost you one of Laf/Schneider + one of Lundkivst/Barron + 1st at least.

I know you compared this to the Eichel deal but that’s basically comparing apples to oranges. Eichel was hurt, and wanted a controversial surgery. He also had publicly requested a deal and said he wouldn’t play for the Sabres again. That right there lowers his value a ton, not to mention there were 2-3 teams interested.

I mean look at what Arizona wants for Chychrun, he’s a LD, which is in less demand than a 1C in his prime at a reasonable cap hit with term left.
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26 févr. 2022 à 19 h 21
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Wow this is an underpayment. Offer easily gets beat by other teams
26 févr. 2022 à 19 h 23
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Scheifele is going to cost you one of Laf/Schneider + one of Lundkivst/Barron + 1st at least.

I know you compared this to the Eichel deal but that’s basically comparing apples to oranges. Eichel was hurt, and wanted a controversial surgery. He also had publicly requested a deal and said he wouldn’t play for the Sabres again. That right there lowers his value a ton, not to mention there were 2-3 teams interested.

I mean look at what Arizona wants for Chychrun, he’s a LD, which is in less demand than a 1C in his prime at a reasonable cap hit with term left.


I totally agree with this take. There was not a guarantee that Eichel would come back and play like a top player in the league and Vegas was willing to take that chance.

If Scheifele is available at the deadline, teams will value him a lot because they get 3 playoff runs at a very team friendly price. It will have to be Schneider + 1st + something else. I could even see it being Schneider + Laf/Kakko + 1st.
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26 févr. 2022 à 19 h 28
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I totally agree with this take. There was not a guarantee that Eichel would come back and play like a top player in the league and Vegas was willing to take that chance.

If Scheifele is available at the deadline, teams will value him a lot because they get 3 playoff runs at a very team friendly price. It will have to be Schneider + 1st + something else. I could even see it being Schneider + Laf/Kakko + 1st.


If it’s this TDL I could for sure see Laf + Schneider and a 1st. 3 cup runs is a lot, especially when he’s a 1C who will put up over a PPG in NY. Not to mention his very team friendly deal. Also gallant plays a perfect system for Scheifele. I think two top prospects and a 1st is super fair for a prime 1C with term on a friendly deal.
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