Last thing bruins need, if you wanna talk about Necas give us a call

Bruins need a D man, especially with Grz out. It's very much a trade to any team.

If you want Necas, we can do that. Pasta's coming the other way, but we can talk.

Grez will be back next game and Urho won’t be long either, so that’s back to 4 LD within the week, RD maybe use some depth but bruins won’t want LH RD

LOL ya we will talk about trading our 1+PPG player for your .62PPG player, what else you adding? Pasta can go your way, we’ll start with SVecHnikov and Necas :-P

Edit: Even then still rather have Pasta

Svech >> Pasta

Necas is also like 4 years younger than Pasta, A FAR better skater, so chill out.

Cole can play RD, and you say they won't use a LH RD, but if needs must, Cole has done it before and done it to win a cup. Again, doesn't have to be Boston. it can be to any team wanting playoff depth. But Cole is way better than Vaak...

If you think so, enjoy having Necas to skate better, we'll keep the better player.

"Svech >> Pasta" Given their contracts, advantage Svechnikov but overall impact and level of play. Svechnikov is 2nd. He isn't even a top3 LW.

I’m not going to bicker with you, pastas first 5 years compared to Necas first 5, pasta still comes out ahead, Necas is great player, hince why I said if you want to talk him let us know, but expecting pasta swap for Necas with nothing else involved not going to happen

And Cole will be a good depth piece for someone it’s just not going to be the bruins, that’s all, I see trying to move/upgrade Neiderreiter more likely, unless they are going to get another defense from another trade then they move Cole but maybe CAR got a stud young dman to take his place that I don’t know about

They don’t and if they are paying a 2nd and 3rd, they are getting someone better than Cole.

Grizz practiced in full on Friday and is expected back Tues. Urho not far off either.

Debrincat trade isn't but if it did it starts with Necas or Jarvis

That would be met with laughter, That was a non-starter for Eichel, Cats not as good as Eichel, and Eichel had more term on his deal.

Wrong way to look at it bud.

Cat is worth more then Eichel....why?
1) He's not asking for a trade and publically making it known
2) He's not injured or having a major surgery
3) He doesn't carry a cap hit for $10M per year
4) He isn't a UFA in another 4 seasons (Cat is a RFA in another year and will get locked up for 7 or 8 years)
5) He's a year younger

All those things are HUGE pieces that brought down the price of Eichel. It's a horrible comparison to bring up the Eichel trade as a indicator of what Cat will get as such. Cat is a top 5 goal scorer in the league who just turned 24 years old. The top 8 goal scorers, besides Cat, are all on playoff caliber teams...what does that tell you about Cat?

The 2 late 1st rounders are nothing but a bag of magic beans, and especially given 2022 is a shallow draft year. This is a typical quantity doesn't equal quality trade.

You wouldn't give Necas or Jarvis for Eichel.... and also didn't get Eichel. And as Chihawk has said, Debrincat is worth as much as Eichel was at that time if not more. If Eichel was traded right now he would return significantly more than he did a few months ago. If he comes back and looks like normal jack eichel than that price goes even higher

Cat plays a less important position
Cat has only had 1 season over a PPG mark, Eichel has had 4 on a worse team with no linemates like Patty Kane.

Simply put, this is just not a comparison. Yes, Cat is a year younger, but Eichel is still better. If you're not giving up someone for Jack Eichel, who the Sabres didn't have to trade btw. They had no requirement to move him, they could have kept hold of him still, then it's not getting Cat. Eichel wanting a trade doesn't diminish his value. Senko asked for a trade, you think he'll be cheap right now? The injuries do. 100%, but the difference between Eichel and Cat in skill is bigger than the worry with his neck that's been proven successful in other sports, and has an recovery operation of a tried and trusted operation used in the NHL...

Eichel has no line mates? Cat is playing with Dach and Hagel...not exactly a superstar lineup. And on a worse team?...that's arguable.

Eichel was holding out, that was a fiasco for Buffalo, they had no choice but to move him as Eichel didn't want the fusion surgery and Eichel was insistent on the ADR surgery. That 1000% substantially lowered his value, especially with a $10M cap hit and a UFA in 4 years that many teams can't afford or wouldn't take the risk; to suggest otherwise is completely inaccurate.

The surgery itself has never been done in the NHL. It has been proven in contact sports yes, like Peyton Manning and Brian Urlacher in the NFL that put them both into retirement after trying to return but never being the same. I've had the surgery myself, it is major surgery and the chance of Eichel having ongoing problems with his neck/spine as time passes is high and taking contact is not recommended by any doctors after having that surgery. He's one bad hit away from being back on the operating table more then any other player in the NHL.

It had never been done in the NHL, but it had been done in hockey. There was proof it was better than the alternatives.

You can make the case any player is one bad hit away from being on the operating table. It's a fast game played on ice that encourages physicality. There's going to be serious injuries, as much as we wish there weren't. It's the reality of the sport.

Eichel played most of his career in Buffalo with Zemgus Girgensens and Kyle Okposo on his wings... I think I'd rather have Dach... Not to mention, Eichel is a C. That's indisputably a more valuable position. While Eichel does make 10 mil per for the next 4, Cats deal is up at the end of next year, and there's no telling how much he'll get right now.

Yes, Eichel had the injury. But he's also a significantly better player than cat at a more valuable position.

I'm not going to argue the merits of a ADF vs. ADR; being a patient I know more about the procedure, outcome and living as a spine patient then the vast majority of people. Bottom line, it brings a much higher chance of career ending risk, ongoing pain, additional surgeries, performance drops post op, then most most players face with surgical procures. Easiest way to think about it is having a knee replacement or hip replacement (even those have much higher success rates surgically speaking) and expecting the athlete to come back and perform consistently over the long term (given his young age) in a very physically demanding sport; it's unknown and the outcomes have proven in other sports to having impacts on the athletes either immediate or longer term or in some cases ultimately ending their careers aside from a bad hit. Those that don't understand the mechanics of the spine and neurology and how muscle works, probably think this is like getting a torn tendon repaired or repairing a broken bone with pins....it's not remotely close.

There is no question given the type of surgery/injury that it reduced his value on the market and there's not disputing that some teams aren't willing to pay $10M a year to take on that risk and all will not pay top dollar to do so in terms of giving up assets. Add to is a public stalemate with Buffalo and Eichel wanting out, UFA status in 4 years, and Vegas got Eichel at a discount and rightfully so. Would Matthews, McDavid, MacKinnon, etc. get more...1000% yes and again for good reason.

Cat is a RFA and a year younger and healthy...massive difference so to compare the two in trade value is a fool's errand.