uh no from SJ.

That might be the worst offer I've seen for Hertl so far on this site..............

First of all you have to give us some value to get Hertl this doesn’t get it done

Second of all he’s a center so play him at least at 2C and move Strome elsewhere

Umm, well.

Hertl > Lundkvist.

Kinkaid+4th is basically nothing. So that's pretty much an easy no.

Swift no from San Jose. You’re missing another piece worth a 1st rounder

You would find him at 2C but change the 4th to a first and change Kinkaid to a Karl Henriksson type prospect.

NYR would be paying a lot more for both guys.

So bad, oh so bad.

Sharks decline. You have to give Wilson a reason to trade Hertl to your team. This isn't it.

Not enough for either

my boy non stop with the posts lol

Lundkvist is a very high end, blue chip prospect. Any instances of a blue chipper being traded with a first for a rental?

Friend, I know you despise Hertl with every ounce of your soul, but do try to not act like nobody's ever paid that for a rental. The trade between the Sharks and the Sens for EK65 certainly would qualify as involving a blue chip prospect and a first round pick.

I actually really like hertl. I think he’s an awesome player. I really hate blind, willful stupidity though.

Sharks fans aren’t this dumb, they know the ask is super unreasonable. Anyway though:
Karlsson was a pretty different situation. Yes, technically a rental, but done in the off-season when there are way more teams that can come to play. Second, this is a guy who some thought was the best d man in the national hockey league. This is a guy who right before he was traded won multiple Norris trophy’s, and was top 10 in the hart voting three consecutive seasons. The only vote that Hertl has ever gotten was for the lady byng. Not so much as a fifth place selke vote.

Karlsson was elite, Hertl is not. If you can give me one instance of an in-season rental roughly of Hertl’s capabilities getting a 1st and a premium prospect, I’m all ears.

You’re not going to be able to though.

Mmm, I love the smell of goal post shifting in the morning - you asked if there had ever been a blue chip and 1st for a rental. I answered.

Look, I'm not a fool who thinks that Hertl is the second coming or anything, but he's a high performing top six center who penalty kills like he was born to it, and certainly the best player likely to be available at the tdl. He could be a real difference maker on a cup bound team, and the Sharks can and will retain salary on him if needed, so yeah, I think that if he moves we'll probably get a blue chip prospect and a 1st round pick for him, and I'd be very happy to get that.

Cmon dude. I thought it would be very very obvious that when talking about hertl, we were talking about situations similar to hertl. If you want to try to bring up what gretzky got in trade, feel free, but it has nothing to do with this.

Your ask of a blue chip prospect and a 1st is unprecedented. When things haven’t happened before, I tend to not predict them happening. If Mark Stone can’t get a 1st and a blue chip, Hertl sure as hell can’t.

Enjoy the 1st, 3rd, and mid tier prospect.

Both good options, but both would cost more