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Créé par: ricochetii
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2022
Publié: 19 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Curious what people think of these one-for-one swaps?
Work for both teams? Fair (or close enough)?
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1.
MTL
  1. Schneider, Braden
Détails additionnels:
Could be Lundkvist instead.
NYR
  1. Caufield, Cole
Détails additionnels:
Rangers are looking for a RW, Habs need RD.
2.
MTL
  1. Zucker, Jason
PIT
  1. Armia, Joel
Détails additionnels:
Cheaper, more versatile player for Pittsburgh.
Shorter contract for Montreal.
3.
MTL
    They gone
    PIT
    1. Chiarot, Ben
    2. Kulak, Brett
    3. Paquette, Cédric
    4. Wideman, Chris
    5. Niku, Sami
    6. Perreault, Mathieu
    Détails additionnels:
    *not a trade
    Rachats de contrats
    • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Brett Kulak: 925 000 $ (50%)
    • Ben Chiarot: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
    • Artturi Lehkonen: 1 150 000 $ (50%)
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    Toffoli, Tyler
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    Suzuki, Nick
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    Gallagher, Brendan
    6 500 000 $
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    Zucker, Jason
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    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Dvorak, Christian
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    C, AG
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    Anderson, Josh
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    AD, AG
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    Drouin, Jonathan
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    Poehling, Ryan
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    Evans, Jake
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    Ylönen, Jesse
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    RFA - 2
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    Edmundson, Joel
    3 500 000 $
    DG
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    UFA - 3
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    Petry, Jeff
    6 250 000 $
    DD
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    UFA - 4
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    Price, Carey
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    Romanov, Alexander
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    Schneider, Braden
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    DD
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    Allen, Jake
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    Byron, Paul
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    Weber, Shea
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    DD
    UFA - 5
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    Pitlick, Rem
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    RFA - 1
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    19 janv. à 14 h 54
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    Doubt any NYR fans want to move Schneider
    19 janv. à 14 h 58
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    This is why MTL has the most Toxic fanbase. Team has a young player in a slump so they become an instant trade when 6 months ago he was the next best thing for the franchise, like pick a side. Sometimes its so frustrating seeing how other fans act.
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    Hahahaha habs fans are awesome today
    19 janv. à 14 h 59
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    Doubt any NYR fans want to move Schneider


    That's why I gave two possibilities. With Fox and Trouba entrenched on the right, one becomes "extra".
    19 janv. à 15 h 1
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    I don't see the point in moving Caufield. He's super talented and will only get better, and we need his offensive spark. We have plenty of LD prospects and it's not the end of the world if one of them plays on their off-side. The Habs had a chance to draft Schneider and went for Guhle.
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    Quoting: HabsRSus
    This is why MTL has the most Toxic fanbase. Team has a young player in a slump so they become an instant trade when 6 months ago he was the next best thing for the franchise, like pick a side. Sometimes its so frustrating seeing how other fans act.


    I'm not trading Caufield because I don't want him. I'm trading him because we have too many RW with term and a more pressing need at another position.
    19 janv. à 15 h 2
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    Pens don't need any dmen, thanks.
    19 janv. à 15 h 11
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    I'm not trading Caufield because I don't want him. I'm trading him because we have too many RW with term and a more pressing need at another position.


    so maybe trade one of the RW, Lecky isnt signed for next year move Armia if you want to create space, find something to take on Gallagher litterally caufield should be the last option to create RW space and the habs most pressing need is the same its always been, goal scoring, maybe give caufield a bit more time to hopefully be a solution to that problem.
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    Quoting: HabsRSus
    This is why MTL has the most Toxic fanbase. Team has a young player in a slump so they become an instant trade when 6 months ago he was the next best thing for the franchise, like pick a side. Sometimes its so frustrating seeing how other fans act.


    fair point but just think what the habs would have if they moved kk, galchenyuk, drouin, mete, earlier. sometimes they hold on for too long.
    19 janv. à 15 h 15
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    Schneider is not available. Lundqvist would be, but not sure that would be one for one.
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    19 janv. à 15 h 18
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    For Lundkvist, I’ll do that deal
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    19 janv. à 15 h 19
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    nyr doesnt need caufield though. so i dont see a trade like this happening.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    fair point but just think what the habs would have if they moved kk, galchenyuk, drouin, mete, earlier. sometimes they hold on for too long.


    sure or they could develop prospects better, either way Caufield's ceiling is needed more in MTL then anyone they could trade 1 for 1
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    I'm not trading Caufield because I don't want him. I'm trading him because we have too many RW with term and a more pressing need at another position.


    Then trade Armia, Toffoli, Hoffman, or Gallagher before you trade the 21 year old on a rebuilding team.
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    19 janv. à 15 h 23
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    Quoting: hanson493
    nyr doesnt need caufield though. so i dont see a trade like this happening.


    A top 6 RW that can score is exactly what NYR needs though?

    Unless you’re saying that Caufield hasn’t established himself as a real top 6 player yet?
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    Quoting: OldSenileGuy
    A top 6 RW that can score is exactly what NYR needs though?

    Unless you’re saying that Caufield hasn’t established himself as a real top 6 player yet?


    He has 9 goals in 59 career games. i wouldnt say hes a top 6 rw in the nhl, as someone who is supposed to be known for his "shot" ide expect that number to be slightly higher than 1/6. Thats averaging 13.67 goals over an 82 game pace. not exactly what ide want to see if i was acquiring him for a still highly rated d prospect even in abundance. rangers could get a better quality now player if they were dealing lundqkvist away.
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    Quoting: hanson493
    nyr doesnt need caufield though. so i dont see a trade like this happening.


    I heard Drury has been in the market for a top 6/9 RW for a while?

    Quoting: HabsRSus
    Then trade Armia, Toffoli, Hoffman, or Gallagher before you trade the 21 year old on a rebuilding team.


    There are other options of course, but our direction hasn't been solidified yet. I'm looking at possibilities, and I don't believe this one has been explored, but is at least worth discussing.

    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    fair point but just think what the habs would have if they moved kk, galchenyuk, drouin, mete, earlier. sometimes they hold on for too long.


    Unfortunately true. Drafting and development issues have persisted for too long.

    Quoting: SevenLeg
    I don't see the point in moving Caufield. He's super talented and will only get better, and we need his offensive spark. We have plenty of LD prospects and it's not the end of the world if one of them plays on their off-side. The Habs had a chance to draft Schneider and went for Guhle.


    That's fair, but we also aren't just looking at one player on their offside, but to the future post-Savard and Petry. We will need up and coming RD.

    Quoting: hanson493
    He has 9 goals in 59 career games. i wouldnt say hes a top 6 rw in the nhl, as someone who is supposed to be known for his "shot" ide expect that number to be slightly higher than 1/6. Thats averaging 13.67 goals over an 82 game pace. not exactly what ide want to see if i was acquiring him for a still highly rated d prospect even in abundance. rangers could get a better quality now player if they were dealing lundqkvist away.


    Can't judge Lundkvist as high value based on a small sample of games, any more than you can judge Caufield as low value. It's a risk/reward for both sides, with the potential to address their needs.
    20 janv. à 8 h 47
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    I heard Drury has been in the market for a top 6/9 RW for a while?



    There are other options of course, but our direction hasn't been solidified yet. I'm looking at possibilities, and I don't believe this one has been explored, but is at least worth discussing.



    Unfortunately true. Drafting and development issues have persisted for too long.



    That's fair, but we also aren't just looking at one player on their offside, but to the future post-Savard and Petry. We will need up and coming RD.



    Can't judge Lundkvist as high value based on a small sample of games, any more than you can judge Caufield as low value. It's a risk/reward for both sides, with the potential to address their needs.


    disagree, lundkvist has played less than half of the games caufield has, and hasnt played poorly. This is his first time in the nhl (caufield saw nhl action last year) and like i said before caufields biggest strength was supposed to be his shot and he really isnt showing it. hes also a super negative player this year. either they really sheltered him last year or hes not as good as his debut was.

    either way if the rangers wanted a top 6 right now winger i think they could get that by trading lundkvist and not taking a huge risk in caufield. for example youre telling me kessel wouldnt be a good fit there?
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    Quoting: hanson493
    disagree, lundkvist has played less than half of the games caufield has, and hasnt played poorly. This is his first time in the nhl (caufield saw nhl action last year) and like i said before caufields biggest strength was supposed to be his shot and he really isnt showing it. hes also a super negative player this year. either they really sheltered him last year or hes not as good as his debut was.

    either way if the rangers wanted a top 6 right now winger i think they could get that by trading lundkvist and not taking a huge risk in caufield. for example youre telling me kessel wouldnt be a good fit there?


    This year he's been bumped to the 3rd line a lot because Ducharme can't figure out how to make this team work. Shooters need to get the puck in good places and it just isn't happening. His ability is there, but his shooting percentage dropped over 10% (to 1.4) and he's getting less shots. That's obviously not going to hold up.

    Trading for a rental is another option, but Caufield would be a long term solution.
    20 janv. à 11 h 1
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    This year he's been bumped to the 3rd line a lot because Ducharme can't figure out how to make this team work. Shooters need to get the puck in good places and it just isn't happening. His ability is there, but his shooting percentage dropped over 10% (to 1.4) and he's getting less shots. That's obviously not going to hold up.

    Trading for a rental is another option, but Caufield would be a long term solution.


    if they are trading lundkvist i dont think they would purely pull a rental. they also have kakko who is developing, kravstov in khl, etc.
     
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