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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 26
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The IIHF will meet today to discuss the future of the WJC, cancellation is on the table apparently


Understandable. At this rate, there's little options left but doing just that.
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 27
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Understandable. At this rate, there's little options left but doing just that.


In any case, this shows the incompetence of the IIHF's planning
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
The IIHF will meet today to discuss the future of the WJC, cancellation is on the table apparently


Absolutely stinks, but unfortunately there may not be much of a choice (would feel so bad for the players, especially those who have been lighting it up like Bedard (even though he'll probably get another chance next year) and Lambert)
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 29
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The IIHF will meet today to discuss the future of the WJC, cancellation is on the table apparently






Ya dude, this might get canceled tonight
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 33
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This is so dumb, these players are in peak physical condition, they likely have the sniffles or are completely asymptomatic. If they are too sick to play, they won't play and isolate them from the rest of the team. We have to learn to live with this, we can't do this forever.
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 35
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This is so dumb, these players are in peak physical condition, they likely have the sniffles or are completely asymptomatic. If they are too sick to play, they won't play and isolate them from the rest of the team. We have to learn to live with this, we can't do this forever.


Agreed
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 36
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This is so dumb, these players are in peak physical condition, they likely have the sniffles or are completely asymptomatic. If they are too sick to play, they won't play and isolate them from the rest of the team. We have to learn to live with this, we can't do this forever.


It's not dumb, we still need to take Covid seriously, i think this shows more the incompetence of the IIHF's planning than anything else
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 39
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This is so dumb, these players are in peak physical condition, they likely have the sniffles or are completely asymptomatic. If they are too sick to play, they won't play and isolate them from the rest of the team. We have to learn to live with this, we can't do this forever.


The problem with doing that is that you're eventually going to have a Josh Archibald or somebody of the like who's actually seriously affected by it, and you never want to be responsible for that kind of thing. It's frustrating as heck, but they have to err on the side of caution, and thus there's really not much they can do at this point besides shut it down.
29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 41
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This tournament is rapidly turning into a joke. What's the point of putting the whole team in quarantine if one player has a case? I can't fathom the idea behind this. That won't help stop the spread at all as it seems to be nigh impossible to do it in any case. Seems utterly pointless.


What they’re doing is isolating the guy who has it, and quarantining the whole team in “groups”.

For example;

Mike Hunt has COVID
He is isolated.

John Doe, Dumb Asse are his roommates so they are isolated together but separate from Mike Hunt.

And the same goes on throughout the whole team. That way whoever has COVID is isolated, whoever would be directly linked to him is isolated and than everyone else is continued to be isolated in their roommate groups or whatever that way no one else can get it and anyone who could have it is already isolated
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 42
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This tournament has to get postponed imo

The WJC isn’t a hockey tournament, it’s a tournament to see which team gets Covid last

Imagine a team like Austria or Slovakia ends up winning because every other team has to forfeit

Very poor planned WJC by the IIHF
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 42
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If they cancel the tournament this is completely on the IIHF.

No bubble and no safety nets for teams being as cautious as they can be.
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 43
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What they’re doing is isolating the guy who has it, and quarantining the whole team in “groups”.

For example;

Mike Hunt has COVID
He is isolated.

John Doe, Dumb Asse are his roommates so they are isolated together but separate from Mike Hunt.

And the same goes on throughout the whole team. That way whoever has COVID is isolated, whoever would be directly linked to him is isolated and than everyone else is continued to be isolated in their roommate groups or whatever that way no one else can get it and anyone who could have it is already isolated


I love the names lol but this makes sense for a way to isolate the players
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 43
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If they cancel the tournament this is completely on the IIHF.

No bubble and no safety nets for teams being as cautious as they can be.


Yep, as i said a couple times already, this is on the IIHF
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 45
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
The problem with doing that is that you're eventually going to have a Josh Archibald or somebody of the like who's actually seriously affected by it, and you never want to be responsible for that kind of thing. It's frustrating as heck, but they have to err on the side of caution, and thus there's really not much they can do at this point besides shut it down.


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It's not dumb, we still need to take Covid seriously, i think this shows more the incompetence of the IIHF's planning than anything else


We are not supposed to get political on here so I won't argue, we clearly have different stances on this which is fine. The one thing I will say is Covid isn't going anywhwere any time soon, and we need to learn to live with it. Immune comprimised people are at a greater risk when they contract any type of virus/sickness not just Covid, it's unfortunate but it's the harsh truth.
29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 48
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Yep, as i said a couple times already, this is on the IIHF


Agreed, Omicron is 70x more transmissible than Delta, which in turn was 2x as transmissible as the original strain of COVID. Do the math, that means Omicron is 140X (!!!) more transmissible than the original COVID. Even though the vast majority of people who get it are fine (I.E. are either asymptomatic or have a mild cold), IIHF still should've known that the chances of the players getting it (and thus having to shut down the WJC) drastically increased without having any precautions in place (I.E. staying in public hotels, having fans in the building, no bubbles). Take a look at what's going on around the league right now-more than 200 players have gotten COVID in the last 2 weeks alone. Did they honestly think nobody was going to get it at the World Juniors if they didn't have some kind of safety net?
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: AustonMatthews3443
We are not supposed to get political on here so I won't argue, we clearly have different stances on this which is fine. The one thing I will say is Covid isn't going anywhwere any time soon, and we need to learn to live with it. Immune comprimised people are at a greater risk when they contract any type of virus/sickness not just Covid, it's unfortunate but it's the harsh truth.


The funny thing is that I actually probably agree with your political take on COVID (I'm libertarian/conservative), I just think it's too risky to keep the WJC going
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29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 53
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If they cancel the tournament this is completely on the IIHF.

No bubble and no safety nets for teams being as cautious as they can be.


Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Yep, as i said a couple times already, this is on the IIHF


Yup


29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
The funny thing is that I actually probably agree with your political take on COVID (I tend to lean libertarian/conservative), I just think it's too risky to keep the WJC going


Absolutely, at this point I see no other choice but to shut it down, with the protocols that are in place there is no way this can continue.
29 déc. 2021 à 14 h 54
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We are not supposed to get political on here so I won't argue, we clearly have different stances on this which is fine. The one thing I will say is Covid isn't going anywhwere any time soon, and we need to learn to live with it. Immune comprimised people are at a greater risk when they contract any type of virus/sickness not just Covid, it's unfortunate but it's the harsh truth.


Yep, that's right, we need to live with Covid, however we need to slowly normalize ourselves to it, not just say f*ck it and see with happens
29 déc. 2021 à 15 h 1
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Yep, that's right, we need to live with Covid, however we need to slowly normalize ourselves to it, not just say f*ck it and see with happens

The main problem is there’s no treatment yet. When we reach sufficient fully vaxxed rates and have a method to treat symptoms (like the pill that’s being developed) then we can probably start treating it like the flu (bearing in mind that it is most definitely not the flu), in that we don’t have to cancel everything when someone gets sick. For now though, we do, otherwise the spread just won’t stop. Also as an aside, I hate when people bring politics into this. Politicians don’t know their arse from a hole in the ground, why would anyone listen to them? This is a matter of science, and the scientists are saying it isn’t safe yet.
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29 déc. 2021 à 15 h 3
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Yep, that's right, we need to live with Covid, however we need to slowly normalize ourselves to it, not just say f*ck it and see with happens


Every time we start to do that and the cases obviously rise as a result, we just shut it down again, at least where I live. Constantly going one step forward, then one step back. I'm not saying we just open everything backup, but teenagers in peak condition doesn't pose as much of a threat. We need to build herd immunity, the more people that get infected along with more people that get vaccinated, the better the population will be at fighting this which will let us get back to normal. This is why Omnicron is actually a good sign for the future, much more contagious while carrying milder symptoms. The IIHF fumbled the bag bigtime, you can't have all these testing protocols in place with no other safeguards to keep players from getting it, seems like they were just asking for the tournament to get shutdown.
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29 déc. 2021 à 15 h 16
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What a mess
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29 déc. 2021 à 15 h 17
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What a mess


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29 déc. 2021 à 15 h 18
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What a mess


Ouch, was expected now but the IIHF dropped the ball on that, IIHF more like IIHooF
29 déc. 2021 à 15 h 22
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This tournament is going to end prematurely at this rate...I'm almost certain of it

Or to be fair it could be a race of which team can keep themselves without a single case.


Can I call this a jinx?
 
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