SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Toffoli Half Retained

Créé par: Campabee
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 30 nov. 2021
Publié: 7 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
MTL
NSH
  1. Weber, Shea
Détails additionnels:
Not a trade just Weber retiring
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Habs pick is top 10 protects therefore reverts to Habs
ARI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
3.
MTL
  1. Schneider, Braden
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Alternatively Lafreniere + 2nd
NYR
  1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 125 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de MTL
Logo de NYR
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de CAR
Logo de ANA
Logo de MTL
Logo de TBL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
2023
Logo de MTL
Logo de NYR
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2024
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2581 500 000 $70 422 144 $597 561 $1 957 500 $11 077 856 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
7 déc. 2021 à 15 h 33
#1
aecliptic
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 2,947
Mentions "j'aime": 1,284
You MTL fans really are out there.
TrueCanuck, Josh, gmgb and 2 others a aimé ceci.
7 déc. 2021 à 15 h 34
#2
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 10,290
Mentions "j'aime": 7,142
Big overpay. I like Toffoli, especially retained, but you’re way overvaluing him in this deal.
Josh et gmgb a aimé ceci.
7 déc. 2021 à 15 h 40
#3
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,665
Mentions "j'aime": 6,513
Quoting: aecliptic
You MTL fans really are out there.


Where else are you going to find a consistent 20+ goal scorer for 2.125 Mil?
7 déc. 2021 à 15 h 43
#4
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,665
Mentions "j'aime": 6,513
Quoting: villenash
Big overpay. I like Toffoli, especially retained, but you’re way overvaluing him in this deal.


Dont think so, consistent 20+ goal scorer signed 3 years after this one, at just 2.125 Mil cap hit. For 2 late 1sts and a top prospect or an elite prospect + 2nd. Good luck finding a better deal than that.
7 déc. 2021 à 15 h 47
#5
LafreneiretoKravtsov
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2016
Messages: 2,421
Mentions "j'aime": 833
We are not up to 2 1sts and Schneider.
7 déc. 2021 à 15 h 52
#6
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 7,710
Mentions "j'aime": 5,285
Quoting: Campabee
Where else are you going to find a consistent 20+ goal scorer for 2.125 Mil?


Not in this proposal.
chiddie et Xqb15a a aimé ceci.
7 déc. 2021 à 16 h 4
#7
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,665
Mentions "j'aime": 6,513
Quoting: Josh
We are not up to 2 1sts and Schneider.


And that is fair cause you could probably get Tarasenko for a similar price with maybe 2 mil retained. I am just saying that trading for a top 6 wing is not cheap when you want him half retained for 3.5 years the price goes up exponentially. Especially when the retention means you get him for less than 3 mil.
7 déc. 2021 à 16 h 4
#8
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,665
Mentions "j'aime": 6,513
Quoting: gmgb
Not in this proposal.


Not anywhere!
7 déc. 2021 à 16 h 21
#9
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 7,710
Mentions "j'aime": 5,285
Quoting: Campabee
Not anywhere!


Sorry, but even if he were getting league minimum, that's too much for Toffoli. The equivalent of three 1sts for a 29 year old player having a down season? The most I could possibly see MTL getting for Toffoli at max retention right now would be a lottery protected 1st and a B prospect.
Xqb15a a aimé ceci.
7 déc. 2021 à 16 h 26
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,629
Mentions "j'aime": 1,515
Pure nonsense. Drury wouldn't even take the call.
7 déc. 2021 à 16 h 27
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,629
Mentions "j'aime": 1,515
Quoting: Campabee
Dont think so, consistent 20+ goal scorer signed 3 years after this one, at just 2.125 Mil cap hit. For 2 late 1sts and a top prospect or an elite prospect + 2nd. Good luck finding a better deal than that.


Toffoli is all yours, Drury wouldn't even take the call.
7 déc. 2021 à 16 h 28
#12
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,665
Mentions "j'aime": 6,513
Quoting: gmgb
Sorry, but even if he were getting league minimum, that's too much for Toffoli. The equivalent of three 1sts for a 29 year old player having a down season? The most I could possibly see MTL getting for Toffoli at max retention right now would be a lottery protected 1st and a B prospect.


Wow obviously you don't follow the Habs, Toffoli is on pace for 19 goals (so 1 goal below his normal range) and 53 points (his 2nd best points total ever). Not sure how you can consider it a "down year" but whatever.
7 déc. 2021 à 16 h 54
#13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 7,710
Mentions "j'aime": 5,285
Quoting: Campabee
Wow obviously you don't follow the Habs, Toffoli is on pace for 19 goals (so 1 goal below his normal range) and 53 points (his 2nd best points total ever). Not sure how you can consider it a "down year" but whatever.


Five goals in 26 games works out to be a 15-16 goal pace over 82 games. Only his brutal 18-19 season was worse, and now he's going to be on the shelf for multiple weeks.
7 déc. 2021 à 16 h 55
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2019
Messages: 206
Mentions "j'aime": 82
Rangers pass! Big time!!
7 déc. 2021 à 17 h 14
#15
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,665
Mentions "j'aime": 6,513
Quoting: aecliptic
You MTL fans really are out there.


Quoting: NYR_1
Rangers pass! Big time!!


Quoting: delneggs
Toffoli is all yours, Drury wouldn't even take the call.


Didn't see any of yous chiming in when the Rags fan posted the following ridiculous thread. Don't like the counter offer should chine in when fellow fans post ridiculous trades.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2938979
7 déc. 2021 à 17 h 16
#16
aecliptic
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 2,947
Mentions "j'aime": 1,284
Quoting: Campabee
Didn't see any of yous chiming in when the Rags fan posted the following ridiculous thread. Don't like the counter offer should chine in when fellow fans post ridiculous trades.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2938979


Im sorry I dont spend my day monitoring this website.
Xspyrit et NYR_1 a aimé ceci.
7 déc. 2021 à 17 h 20
#17
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,665
Mentions "j'aime": 6,513
Quoting: aecliptic
Im sorry I dont spend my day monitoring this website.


I didn't ask if you did
7 déc. 2021 à 17 h 31
#18
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 11,604
Mentions "j'aime": 9,219
MTL retains its minimum 1st rd pick going to them in the deal. Another team retains and oh here you go is a nice mid round pick.

No GM on the planet is going to basically give up 3 1st rd picks or Lafrienere for Toffoli. Hell they aren’t giving up a 1st AND top prospect for him.
7 déc. 2021 à 18 h 34
#19
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,665
Mentions "j'aime": 6,513
Quoting: Xqb15a
MTL retains its minimum 1st rd pick going to them in the deal. Another team retains and oh here you go is a nice mid round pick.

No GM on the planet is going to basically give up 3 1st rd picks or Lafrienere for Toffoli. Hell they aren’t giving up a 1st AND top prospect for him.


And they probably shouldn't but the other side if that is no GM on the planet would trade Toffoli half retained with 3 years remaining for less. Sure they might retain 1 mil but you are not getting him at 2.1 for 3.5 years for peanuts! That was really the point of this all.
7 déc. 2021 à 18 h 37
#20
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 11,604
Mentions "j'aime": 9,219
Quoting: Campabee
And they probably shouldn't but the other side if that is no GM on the planet would trade Toffoli half retained with 3 years remaining for less. Sure they might retain 1 mil but you are not getting him at 2.1 for 3.5 years for peanuts! That was really the point of this all.


Nobody is trading 3 1st rd picks for Toffoli regardless of his cap hit, I mean come on his full cap hit is under $5M there is a point of diminishing returns and this hits it. People forget the owners have final say ultimately and those people didn’t get rich paying people to work for their competitors.
7 déc. 2021 à 20 h 5
#21
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,629
Mentions "j'aime": 1,515
Quoting: Campabee
Didn't see any of yous chiming in when the Rags fan posted the following ridiculous thread. Don't like the counter offer should chine in when fellow fans post ridiculous trades.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2938979


You have to see em to comment.
8 déc. 2021 à 10 h 24
#22
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2016
Messages: 10,514
Mentions "j'aime": 3,728
Not really a need to retain on Toffoli as his AAV is already quite reasonnable but if a team would absolutely need retention, they wouldn't pay that price at all.

I'll be honest "Alternatively Lafreniere + 2nd" made me chuckle
8 déc. 2021 à 23 h 17
#23
Tspky
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2016
Messages: 3,885
Mentions "j'aime": 980
Quoting: aecliptic
You MTL fans really are out there.


Quoting: villenash
Big overpay. I like Toffoli, especially retained, but you’re way overvaluing him in this deal.


Quoting: Campabee
Where else are you going to find a consistent 20+ goal scorer for 2.125 Mil?


He expects a return better than eichel got for Toffoli. Why are you even entertaining him.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage