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Moves and getting into next season

Créé par: NDoody
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 12 nov. 2021
Publié: 12 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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**UPDATED WITH NEW TRADE**
I know they are not at cap floor but sign a Vet winger and they are there.

The basis of this was to look at making basically one big deal to get a solid young Right Shot RW to fill out the top 6. Lately, I have opened to the idea of moving Batheron to the 2nd line he plays great with Stuzle.

Now Signings.
Norris I think given the term will be happy with 6.5, some will say too low because he is center, some will say too high for him, but given the cap of the team here it leaves room for other contracts coming and also White can be moved to make room.
Paul will be an interesting one but he likes Ottawa and I think the term and number is about right, I would see him with a permanent A as well starting next season.
Formenton has been great for the sens in many ways and I think this is a fair bridge deal.
Branstrom & Mete Bridge deal.
Holden just to have some vet presence on D which is very young. I would see DJ wanting to add another vet D so you could add another RD Vet D UFA signing to this team whoever.
Depending on how Gus plays this year the team could try to move on from Murray as well, but they will likely keep him as a backup because his cap hit helps bring the team to the Cap Floor for another year, however if they saign a 3 mill LD D UFA they could move Murray and get Sogard in the NHL which would be ideal.
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    Anywhere at deadline for who ever will take him for late round pick
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      Deadline move for anyone who will take him for playoff run, most likely will have to add a pick here
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      2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
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      2. Järventie, Roby
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      12 nov. 2021 à 11 h 9
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      I wouldn’t make that Keller trade tbh. His highest point total is 65 in his rookie season. Hasn’t come close to that since . He’s not that good. Would rather draft someone like Kemell and if he’s not ready next year, sign someone like Radulov for 1 year
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      12 nov. 2021 à 11 h 10
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      1. Ottawa does not have to spend assets to dump Zaitsev if we are not up against cap.

      We are better off buying him out or burying him in the minors.



      2. As much as I love Clayton Keller, we should not be trading out 1st round picks.

      Given our recent history as a team.
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      12 nov. 2021 à 11 h 15
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      Quoting: csick
      I wouldn’t make that Keller trade tbh. His highest point total is 65 in his rookie season. Hasn’t come close to that since . He’s not that good. Would rather draft someone like Kemell and if he’s not ready next year, sign someone like Radulov for 1 year


      The idea was to find a young Right RW that is a long-term solution. I picked Keller because he has the hands and speed, and as you said is production lately means Sens wouldn't have to give up as much, I originally wanted to make it Brown and Zaitsev. maybe you don't need everything I put in a trade, but I believe a change of scenery and getting on a line with Norris and Brady would get him back to his rookie season pace and beyond, or you play him with Stuzle, and the same thing.
      Other RW I looked at for the same trade would be Kyrou, Necas, Terry, Boser, but I think they would all cost a lot more.

      I wanted to stay away from the short-term older players in the top 6, like Radulov, Giroux, etc. However that is an option as well.
      12 nov. 2021 à 11 h 17
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      1. Ottawa does not have to spend assets to dump Zaitsev if we are not up against cap.

      We are better off buying him out or burying him in the minors.

      2. As much as I love Clayton Keller, we should not be trading out 1st round picks.

      Given our recent history as a team.


      Buying out or Minors still hurts when the Team needs cap to sign all the other RFA's they have. I would agree that they should be able to move him at the deadline without adding picks, but if his current play continues the way it is, idk.

      What do you think we could offer then that gets Keller?
      12 nov. 2021 à 11 h 17
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      Quoting: NDoody
      The idea was to find a young Right RW that is a long-term solution. I picked Keller because he has the hands and speed, and as you said is production lately means Sens wouldn't have to give up as much, I originally wanted to make it Brown and Zaitsev. maybe you don't need everything I put in a trade, but I believe a change of scenery and getting on a line with Norris and Brady would get him back to his rookie season pace and beyond, or you play him with Stuzle, and the same thing.
      Other RW I looked at for the same trade would be Kyrou, Necas, Terry, Boser, but I think they would all cost a lot more.

      I wanted to stay away from the short-term older players in the top 6, like Radulov, Giroux, etc. However that is an option as well.


      None of these guys will be available unfortunately. Burakovksy (UFA) and Kubalik (by trade) could be available but if I’m not mistaken neither is Right Handed
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      12 nov. 2021 à 11 h 21
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      Quoting: csick
      None of these guys will be available unfortunately. Burakovksy (UFA) and Kubalik (by trade) could be available but if I’m not mistaken neither is Right Handed


      Most likely they are not available, but that is what this site is for right, to try out these ideas.

      Like I said I goal is to try and find a way they can add a <25 year old Right Shot forward to play RW in top 6 that improves the team by a fair amount. Unless Sokolov could make that jump for next season, which i am not sure about.
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      12 nov. 2021 à 11 h 35
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      Quoting: NDoody
      Buying out or Minors still hurts when the Team needs cap to sign all the other RFA's they have. I would agree that they should be able to move him at the deadline without adding picks, but if his current play continues the way it is, idk.

      What do you think we could offer then that gets Keller?


      1. If we bought out Bobby Ryan, we can buy out Zaitsev.

      Also, you're still 8.2 million short of the cap in your post and Zaitsev can be buried at a reduced cap hit.



      2. If you take out the 1st, Arizona might still accept a solid return of Connor Brown + Lassi Thomson + the 33rd or 34th overall pick for the upcoming draft.

      Keller has a massive contract and Arizona is a financially bankrupt team that needs to cut expenses.

      Like they did when they sold off a bunch of their key pieces during summer.

      Getting Keller off the books would be a godsend for them.
      12 nov. 2021 à 12 h 56
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      OTT passes, they are in absolutely no position to trade away ANY RD prospects, and Keller make to much for what he is, rather save the $$$ and get someone better
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      12 nov. 2021 à 13 h 41
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      That Keller deal is really not good for Ottawa

      1) Keller already makes significant money and hasn't produced enough to be worth it

      2) Connor Brown is cheaper and significantly more valuable at the moment

      3) Lassi Thomson, might be better than we thought. Played 22 mins and looked good in his NHL debut

      4) 2022 2nd round pick (OTT) should result in another very good prospect

      5) no way this should trade a near future 1st round pick
      12 nov. 2021 à 14 h 14
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      OTT passes, they are in absolutely no position to trade away ANY RD prospects, and Keller make to much for what he is, rather save the $$$ and get someone better


      Quoting: Xspyrit
      That Keller deal is really not good for Ottawa

      1) Keller already makes significant money and hasn't produced enough to be worth it

      2) Connor Brown is cheaper and significantly more valuable at the moment

      3) Lassi Thomson, might be better than we thought. Played 22 mins and looked good in his NHL debut

      4) 2022 2nd round pick (OTT) should result in another very good prospect

      5) no way this should trade a near future 1st round pick


      Fair Enough, I agree with the Points made Especially after yesterday with Lassi Thompson,

      My thought here was Keller could bounce back with the current Sens top 6 core, and i was trying to find a top 6 RW Right Shot that is under 25.

      So given those filters who could a combo of c Brown and Zaitsev or Branstrom and a 2nd get us ?

      I also looked at doing Kyrou, Necas, Terry, Boser instead of Keller.
      12 nov. 2021 à 18 h 41
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      Quoting: NDoody
      Fair Enough, I agree with the Points made Especially after yesterday with Lassi Thompson,

      My thought here was Keller could bounce back with the current Sens top 6 core, and i was trying to find a top 6 RW Right Shot that is under 25.

      So given those filters who could a combo of c Brown and Zaitsev or Branstrom and a 2nd get us ?

      I also looked at doing Kyrou, Necas, Terry, Boser instead of Keller.


      its kellers cap hit that is the problem
      13 nov. 2021 à 12 h 25
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      Quoting: NDoody
      Fair Enough, I agree with the Points made Especially after yesterday with Lassi Thompson,

      My thought here was Keller could bounce back with the current Sens top 6 core, and i was trying to find a top 6 RW Right Shot that is under 25.

      So given those filters who could a combo of c Brown and Zaitsev or Branstrom and a 2nd get us ?

      I also looked at doing Kyrou, Necas, Terry, Boser instead of Keller.


      I would like to get Keller but not at the price you initially suggested. He makes 7.15 and hasn't produced to that level, he wouldn't get Connor Brown + 2nd, so forget it if you add a 1st and/or Thomson

      However, I would do it for Martin Necas or Boeser

      I see that you have modified the proposal. It's not that the value isn't there but I don't see the rationale for the Ducks to trade Terry now that he is breaking out. It would have been like trading Batherson earlier this year when he was breaking out
       
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