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Créé par: Poehling
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 4 oct. 2021
Publié: 4 oct. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Breaking down this trade :

Toronto gets better short terms
Montreal gets better long terms

Price + Gallagher = Marner + Amirov
Mrazek and Kerfoot holds value but they need to send money back. MTL send a young C in Poehling who could take a roster spot

This is IF MTL misses the playoffs AND Toronto loses again in the first round and Marner still struggling to score in the postseason
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
36 000 000 $
12 400 000 $
22 500 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
11 250 000 $
11 200 000 $
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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Rachats de contrats
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $73 790 916 $1 132 500 $1 352 500 $8 709 084 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 4
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA

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4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 1
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thats yikes for the leafs considering the price contract
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4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 2
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thats yikes for the leafs considering the price contract


Playoffs Price tho 👀
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 3
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Playoffs Price tho 👀


playoffs price sure that's worth it. but regular season price, and price's contract are downright awful. if there were no cap hits i could see that trade as equal but its just not
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4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 3
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Quoting: Zuki9797
thats yikes for the leafs considering the price contract


It's worse for the Habs considering the drop off in talent and the fact Marner is overpaid by about 2-3 MIl
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 4
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playoffs price sure that's worth it. but regular season price, and price's contract are downright awful. if there were no cap hits i could see that trade as equal but its just not


Are they better with Price and Gallagher in the playoffs then Mrazek and Marner ? Gally stinks in the playoffs so never mind not fair lol
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 6
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You couldn't even give Price away for free, no one is going to give you anything with his cap hit.
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4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 8
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Quoting: Byrr
You couldn't even give Price away for free, no one is going to give you anything with his cap hit.


I took Marner back 💀
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 9
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I took Marner back 💀


One of those 2 would have been claimed by Seattle.
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 11
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One of those 2 would have been claimed by Seattle.


I’m kidding, I thought it was obvious
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 27
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It's worse for the Habs considering the drop off in talent and the fact Marner is overpaid by about 2-3 MIl


if marner is over paid by 2-3 mill then gallagher is over paid by 3-4 mill and price is over paid by 8 to 9 mill
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4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 37
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
if marner is over paid by 2-3 mill then gallagher is over paid by 3-4 mill and price is over paid by 8 to 9 mill


Marner should be making Rantanen type of money not Matthews. Gallagher is a 30+ goal scorer and has been top 5 at 5 vs 5 for the past 4 years. He is under paid by 1 MIl not overpaid but yeah that makes sense. Price is still elite when it matters, in the playoffs and while I agree he is overpaid for his regular season performances he is still worth 5-7 MIl. I was not trying to be mean I was just saying that Marner is overpaid, he is an elite player and drives the play from the wing much like Rantanen but he is not an 10.3 mil player.
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 39
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It's worse for the Habs considering the drop off in talent and the fact Marner is overpaid by about 2-3 MIl


That’s funny, Price clearly doesn’t have the value you think considering Seattle could have taken him for free and didn’t. A Marner to Montreal trade probably consists of Suzuki Romanov and a 1st going the other way
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 45
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Quoting: Aasen6
That’s funny, Price clearly doesn’t have the value you think considering Seattle could have taken him for free and didn’t. A Marner to Montreal trade probably consists of Suzuki Romanov and a 1st going the other way


MB played up the injury and Price's contract was a hinderance but not to the degree many people think. If the Kraken had known that Price's injury was being overplayed they likely select him even at 10.5 Mil for 4 more years. The issue for them was that they were building for the future not the cup and they wanted assets that were young enough to help in 3-5 years not this year.

EDIT** BTW I am not overvaluing Price, you are undervaluing Gallagher and Price. If Marner gets Zuke + Romy + 1st then Gally gets Sandin + 1st + 2nd and Price (3 MIl retained) gets Liljegren + Amirov + 1st
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 51
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MB played up the injury and Price's contract was a hinderance but not to the degree many people think. If the Kraken had known that Price's injury was being overplayed they likely select him even at 10.5 Mil for 4 more years. The issue for them was that they were building for the future not the cup and they wanted assets that were young enough to help in 3-5 years not this year.


Even then they could have selected him and traded him somewhere for a nice package but no one wants to give up huge assets for an aging goalie on a 10.5m contract. Yes playoff price is a beast and at one point he was undeniably the best goalie in the world but he’s not that guy anymore so to suggest his value is even close to Marners right now is laughable.
4 oct. 2021 à 16 h 58
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Even then they could have selected him and traded him somewhere for a nice package but no one wants to give up huge assets for an aging goalie on a 10.5m contract. Yes playoff price is a beast and at one point he was undeniably the best goalie in the world but he’s not that guy anymore so to suggest his value is even close to Marners right now is laughable.


I wasn't suggesting his value was close to Marner's I was suggesting that Gally + Price + Poehling is worth more than Marner + Kerfoot + Mrazek + Amirov considering that Price gets Amirov + Kerfoot + Mrazek + 1st on his own then add Gally who is worth Sandin + 1st + 2nd and Poehling who is also worth 2nd or 3rd depending on your view of him (personally I lean more towards a 3rd). Then factor in Marner is overpaid (sorry I was thinking he was at 11 mil like Tavares and Matthews) by 1.5-2 mil and Montreal is getting taken for a ride.
4 oct. 2021 à 17 h 10
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Quoting: Campabee
It's worse for the Habs considering the drop off in talent and the fact Marner is overpaid by about 2-3 MIl


That is the worst take ive seen in this website, u Habs fans are just delusional man
4 oct. 2021 à 17 h 10
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Quoting: Campabee
I wasn't suggesting his value was close to Marner's I was suggesting that Gally + Price + Poehling is worth more than Marner + Kerfoot + Mrazek + Amirov considering that Price gets Amirov + Kerfoot + Mrazek + 1st on his own then add Gally who is worth Sandin + 1st + 2nd and Poehling who is also worth 2nd or 3rd depending on your view of him (personally I lean more towards a 3rd). Then factor in Marner is overpaid (sorry I was thinking he was at 11 mil like Tavares and Matthews) by 1.5-2 mil and Montreal is getting taken for a ride.


Even that might be a little high for price at this point but I’ll give it to you, and poehling is probably worth a 3rd but Gallagher is not close to worth sandin a 1st and a 2nd. If you believe that then Marner must be worth Suzuki caufield Romanov and 3 1sts
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Quoting: Campabee
MB played up the injury and Price's contract was a hinderance but not to the degree many people think. If the Kraken had known that Price's injury was being overplayed they likely select him even at 10.5 Mil for 4 more years. The issue for them was that they were building for the future not the cup and they wanted assets that were young enough to help in 3-5 years not this year.

EDIT** BTW I am not overvaluing Price, you are undervaluing Gallagher and Price. If Marner gets Zuke + Romy + 1st then Gally gets Sandin + 1st + 2nd and Price (3 MIl retained) gets Liljegren + Amirov + 1st


Bruh what? U think gallagher is worth more than marner? Ur acc wild lmao
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4 oct. 2021 à 17 h 12
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Marner should be making Rantanen type of money not Matthews. Gallagher is a 30+ goal scorer and has been top 5 at 5 vs 5 for the past 4 years. He is under paid by 1 MIl not overpaid but yeah that makes sense. Price is still elite when it matters, in the playoffs and while I agree he is overpaid for his regular season performances he is still worth 5-7 MIl. I was not trying to be mean I was just saying that Marner is overpaid, he is an elite player and drives the play from the wing much like Rantanen but he is not an 10.3 mil player.


Lmao so marner is overpaid by 1 mill?
4 oct. 2021 à 17 h 12
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Quoting: Campabee
Marner should be making Rantanen type of money not Matthews. Gallagher is a 30+ goal scorer and has been top 5 at 5 vs 5 for the past 4 years. He is under paid by 1 MIl not overpaid but yeah that makes sense. Price is still elite when it matters, in the playoffs and while I agree he is overpaid for his regular season performances he is still worth 5-7 MIl. I was not trying to be mean I was just saying that Marner is overpaid, he is an elite player and drives the play from the wing much like Rantanen but he is not an 10.3 mil player.


Marner is 5 years younger and already has more career points than Gallagher and isnt basically a bag of broken glass at this point and Price is a huge reason why the Habs almost missed the playoffs the last two seasons and did miss the previous two years. Both of those contracts are worse than Marners and both are significantly more over paid than Marner is.
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4 oct. 2021 à 17 h 22
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Quoting: Campabee
Marner should be making Rantanen type of money not Matthews. Gallagher is a 30+ goal scorer and has been top 5 at 5 vs 5 for the past 4 years. He is under paid by 1 MIl not overpaid but yeah that makes sense. Price is still elite when it matters, in the playoffs and while I agree he is overpaid for his regular season performances he is still worth 5-7 MIl. I was not trying to be mean I was just saying that Marner is overpaid, he is an elite player and drives the play from the wing much like Rantanen but he is not an 10.3 mil player.


Why is Rantanen the comparison? he doesn't kill penalties. Marner does. They both play with elite centres and both had similar in points which puts them in top 10 of point producers. The only person in top 10 who's even close to playing as much SH time as Marner is Marchand but otherwise none of the top point producers kill penalties. So, ya Marner is elite and I'm happy he's a leaf.
4 oct. 2021 à 17 h 33
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Marner is 5 years younger and already has more career points than Gallagher and isnt basically a bag of broken glass at this point and Price is a huge reason why the Habs almost missed the playoffs the last two seasons and did miss the previous two years. Both of those contracts are worse than Marners and both are significantly more over paid than Marner is.


The point about MTL almost missed the playoffs because of Price is hilarious and false but I agree both Price and Gallagher contract are much overpaid than the Marner one
4 oct. 2021 à 17 h 44
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The point about MTL almost missed the playoffs because of Price is hilarious and false but I agree both Price and Gallagher contract are much overpaid than the Marner one


Price was awful in the regular season and the Habs had one more non-OT win than the two worst teams in the division and only 4 more points than the team behind them. He was a big reason why they were fighting to make the playoffs till the end.
4 oct. 2021 à 17 h 53
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You literally could not give Price away for free.

That package wouldn’t even get you Kerfoot.
4 oct. 2021 à 18 h 13
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Leafs are far better having Mrzaek, Marner and Kerfoot at 18,5m than Gallagher and Price at 17m.
Plus Poehling has shown he is NHLer except for one game. Amirov has much more upside than Poehling.
 
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