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Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 30 sept. 2021
Publié: 30 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I know I'm waaaaay off. What would it take?
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  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
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  1. Puustinen, Valtteri
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30 sept. 2021 à 7 h 35
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Marino + Crosby + Jarry vs Caufield + Price + Byron + Kulak
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30 sept. 2021 à 7 h 36
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Marino + Crosby + Jarry vs Caufield + Price + Byron + Kulak


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30 sept. 2021 à 7 h 45
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30 sept. 2021 à 7 h 50
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Yeah no


What would it take?
30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 2
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What would it take?


imagine redrafting Crosby and get asking what would it take wink !! Sorry but Caufield is a dire need and part of MTL rebuild!
30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 12
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What would it take?


Nothing that the Pens have.
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30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 19
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What would it take?


The price is LITERALLY not available for pretty much any team because it would require a stupid overpay for a guy who’s basically unproven.

I don’t slight Caufield. But you cannot say he’s a proven commodity with basically zero full time NHL experience (yet he’s proven he has super star potential). So it would both be a overpay and more then likely not worth it trade for whomever is acquiring him. MTL has no need to trade him so the offer would literally have to be stupid to make it worth moving him.
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30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 19
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Players I’d consider trading Caufield for:

Jakob Chychrun
Nathan MacKinnon
Cale Makar
Connor McDavid
Leon Draisaitl
Adam Fox
Tim Stützle
Auston Matthews
Brayden Point

Due to Cole’s age and contract status he’s incredibly valuable. (And swapping equivalent players like Caufield for Zegras is useless for Montréal) Not to mention he’s exactly what Montréal needs.
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30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 20
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Players I’d consider trading Caufield for:

Jakob Chychrun
Nathan MacKinnon
Cale Makar
Connor McDavid
Leon Draisaitl
Adam Fox
Tim Stützle
Auston Matthews
Brayden Point

Due to Cole’s age and contract status he’s incredibly valuable. (And swapping equivalent players like Caufield for Zegras is useless for Montréal) Not to mention he’s exactly what Montréal needs.


You know you would have to add a ton more to get those guys right?
30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 23
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Starts with Guentzel probably
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Starts with Guentzel probably


MTL would add though
30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 26
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People act like Caufield is the next Kucherov. I sincerely hope so, but it's far from guaranteed. He doesn't have that kind of trade value yet.
If you're looking at an elite player that fills a need, and Caufield is necessary to make it happen, it's possible to trade him. Doesn't matter if people don't like it, that's the truth.
Montreal simply doesn't have a need significant enough to consider trading him any more. Maybe before Dvorak there was a possibility, but that door is closed.
30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 28
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Quoting: Imagine875948
MTL would add though


i agree, but there are no other players with the right value otherwise. so caufield + for guentzel
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You know you would have to add a ton more to get those guys right?


Obviously none of these teams would ever do this. Caufield is more valuable to Montréal than the rest of the league, since he’s as cheap as they get, nearly as young as they get, and exactly what the habs need.
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i agree, but there are no other players with the right value otherwise. so caufield + for guentzel


Yeah I guess, but I like what ricochetii said above. He makes a good point
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Obviously none of these teams would ever do this. Caufield is more valuable to Montréal than the rest of the league, since he’s as cheap as they get, nearly as young as they get, and exactly what the habs need.


Might wanna read what ricochetii said above. I agree with him completely
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30 sept. 2021 à 8 h 40
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People act like Caufield is the next Kucherov. I sincerely hope so, but it's far from guaranteed. He doesn't have that kind of trade value yet.
If you're looking at an elite player that fills a need, and Caufield is necessary to make it happen, it's possible to trade him. Doesn't matter if people don't like it, that's the truth.
Montreal simply doesn't have a need significant enough to consider trading him any more. Maybe before Dvorak there was a possibility, but that door is closed.


This. This. This.

Y'all are going to need his ELC to remain reasonably flexible over the next couple of years.

However...if you could send him to Anaheim to reunite the greatest bromance of all time (Zegras/Caufield), I'd be quite content tears of joy
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Quoting: Imagine875948
Might wanna read what ricochetii said above. I agree with him completely


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Obviously none of these teams would ever do this. Caufield is more valuable to Montréal than the rest of the league, since he’s as cheap as they get, nearly as young as they get, and exactly what the habs need.


Quoting: ricochetii
People act like Caufield is the next Kucherov. I sincerely hope so, but it's far from guaranteed. He doesn't have that kind of trade value yet.
If you're looking at an elite player that fills a need, and Caufield is necessary to make it happen, it's possible to trade him. Doesn't matter if people don't like it, that's the truth.
Montreal simply doesn't have a need significant enough to consider trading him any more. Maybe before Dvorak there was a possibility, but that door is closed.


I think there’s also another way of putting it:

I wouldn’t trade Caufield (not a MTL fan so this is an outside opinion) - for Eichel.

Caufield is in a value period similar to Makar’s early appearances (which was also playoffs similar to Makar). Not many prospects experience this phase. He’s in this foggy middle period where he has NHL playoff experience which is super valuable yet basically no actual NHL experience. Even more so they both played amazing. So he’s:

A unproven commodity

With proven superstar potential (more than just an opinion but it’s now something tangible which we all saw from both of them in the hardest games of the year, playoffs)

And yet has zero NHL resume (under 20 NHL games) to warrant being a safe bet

I would not move Caufield for really any other prospect except for stupid value returns like Shane Wright (not even an NHLer yet). Maybe someone like Byfield (im a huge fan of byfield). But realistically Caufield is only moving for a safe elite return package. So as I said, im not moving Caufield for Eichel because imo that’s not a safe package. He’s elite but why would I gamble on a 10mil contract when im already super tight for cap. So any package you’re moving Caufield in is gonna be stupid in terms of; why would I move Caufield if I believe he’s gonna become Elite for anything less than elite, while fully understanding Caufield is a gamble/ unproven.
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30 sept. 2021 à 9 h 13
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Nothing that the Pens have.


It's not even that. There's just no logical reason for MTL to move a good young forward on an ELC.

Plus, they need to get as much use out of him as possible before he winds up on the Canes. LOL, sorry, I couldn't that.
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30 sept. 2021 à 9 h 25
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Multiple unprotected first round picks your ENTIRE draft capital in 2022 Crosby Guentzel Dumolulin and all your prospects
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30 sept. 2021 à 9 h 49
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Start with Poulin and Legare then maybe a first or two then we'll talk
30 sept. 2021 à 10 h 8
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What would it take?


I would say guenztel, but you’re not trading him. Caufield to PIT really isn’t a good fit
30 sept. 2021 à 10 h 15
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Players I’d consider trading Caufield for:

Jakob Chychrun
Nathan MacKinnon
Cale Makar
Connor McDavid
Leon Draisaitl
Adam Fox
Tim Stützle
Auston Matthews
Brayden Point

Due to Cole’s age and contract status he’s incredibly valuable. (And swapping equivalent players like Caufield for Zegras is useless for Montréal) Not to mention he’s exactly what Montréal needs.


Get outta here man tears of joy
30 sept. 2021 à 13 h 25
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HUMONGOUS NO FROM MTL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
 
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