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If pens decide to rebuild

Créé par: Imagine875948
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 23 août 2021
Publié: 23 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
44 250 000 $
32 500 000 $
33 500 000 $
2925 000 $
33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
35 850 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
2022 TDL or Draft
2.
PIT
  1. Anderson-Dolan, Jaret [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
Détails additionnels:
2022 TDL or Draft
3.
PIT
  1. Wood, Miles [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
2022 TDL or Draft
NJD
    Rust, Bryan

    Rust agrees to extension with Devils
    4.
    PIT
    1. Chytil, Filip
    2. Schneider, Braden
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
    Détails additionnels:
    Malkin agrees to extension with NYR
    NYR
      Malkin, Evgeni

      2022 draft day trade
      5.
      PIT
      1. Byron, Paul
      2. Romanov, Alexander [Droits de RFA]
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
      Détails additionnels:
      Letang agrees to extension with MTL
      MTL
        Letang, Kris

        2022 draft day trade
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        23 août 2021 à 8 h 28
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        Quoting: Imagine875948
        Umm, I dont think that's 3 first round picks. NYR are trying to make the playoffs while teams get better and better. A 1st or 2nd line veteran C would really help them go on a run.


        You have a 1st on there, Schneider was a 1st and Chytil is worth a 1st. That makes the deal three 1st in value
        23 août 2021 à 8 h 29
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        Quoting: Imagine875948
        Umm, I dont think that's 3 first round picks. NYR are trying to make the playoffs while teams get better and better. A 1st or 2nd line veteran C would really help them go on a run.


        not at that price bub.
        Chytil was 21st OV.
        Schneider was 19th OV.
        and a 1st Rounder in 22.

        i'm not great at math but that is 3 first round assets.
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        23 août 2021 à 8 h 30
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        Quoting: JaredOfLondon
        which top 4RHD could the leafs have gotten that is as good as Holl is 2 mill or cheaper?


        The thing is, you wouldnt have to go out and get one. Liljigren is still waiting for his chance and probably would have played with either Reilly or Muzzin. Maybe not better, but your D is kinda stacked on the left side, which means theres guys to mentor Liljigren.
        23 août 2021 à 8 h 31
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        Quoting: NYR1983
        You have a 1st on there, Schneider was a 1st and Chytil is worth a 1st. That makes the deal three 1st in value


        Quoting: Mike_Gartner
        not at that price bub.
        Chytil was 21st OV.
        Schneider was 19th OV.
        and a 1st Rounder in 22.

        i'm not great at math but that is 3 first round assets.


        Maybe. Do you guys think Malkin is a good fit for the NYR. And I think it would take a 1st and chytll at least. And then maybe a D prospect.
        23 août 2021 à 8 h 32
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        Quoting: Imagine875948
        The thing is, you wouldnt have to go out and get one. Liljigren is still waiting for his chance and probably would have played with either Reilly or Muzzin. Maybe not better, but your D is kinda stacked on the left side, which means theres guys to mentor Liljigren.


        except that what happens if they arnt ready? a 4d is much more important than a LW when you have 4 forwards like the leafs. What they did makes much more sense, replacing Hyman's production with 3 cheap guys was easier and it gives them more flexibility. Ritchie alone scored as much as Hyman did last year and he wasnt even on the power play.
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        23 août 2021 à 8 h 35
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        Every team passes, though not all for the same reason.
        23 août 2021 à 8 h 36
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        Quoting: JaredOfLondon
        except that what happens if they arnt ready? a 4d is much more important than a LW when you have 4 forwards like the leafs. What they did makes much more sense, replacing Hyman's production with 3 cheap guys was easier and it gives them more flexibility. Ritchie alone scored as much as Hyman did last year and he wasnt even on the power play.


        They picked up Ritchie? Since when? I thought he went to VAN. Or was that Dickinson. Idk whatever. If you're talking about who's better imo its McCann. And if you're talking about who's worth more imo its McCann.
        23 août 2021 à 8 h 40
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        Maybe. Do you guys think Malkin is a good fit for the NYR. And I think it would take a 1st and chytll at least. And then maybe a D prospect.


        Wouldn’t go as far as to say we want him. Could we swap him and Strome to save you guys cap space, sure. But Malkins value from 2 years ago has dropped..a lot.. if you retained 1/2 his salary then maybe you could squeeze 3 1sts
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        23 août 2021 à 8 h 42
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        Quoting: NYR1983
        Wouldn’t go as far as to say we want him. Could we swap him and Strome to save you guys cap space, sure. But Malkins value from 2 years ago has dropped..a lot.. if you retained 1/2 his salary then maybe you could squeeze 3 1sts


        This trade happens at the draft. Malkin agrees to extension with NYR.
        23 août 2021 à 8 h 44
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        Quoting: Imagine875948
        They picked up Ritchie? Since when? I thought he went to VAN. Or was that Dickinson. Idk whatever. If you're talking about who's better imo its McCann. And if you're talking about who's worth more imo its McCann.


        the leafs basically replaced Hyman with Ritchie, Bunting and Kase. Would McCann have been better? Probably, but those guys + Holl is better than the alternative
        23 août 2021 à 8 h 45
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        Kings pass. Pettersson is not what they are looking for.
        23 août 2021 à 8 h 46
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        Quoting: JaredOfLondon
        the leafs basically replaced Hyman with Ritchie, Bunting and Kase. Would McCann have been better? Probably, but those guys + Holl is better than the alternative


        See now I get it lol. Ok my bad
        23 août 2021 à 9 h 57
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        Quoting: Subbanator7667
        The Montreal trade would depend on where that pick is. If it's a top ten pick MTL likely says no, if it's in the teens and the youth has shown actual steps forward then they likely take it.


        I dont think it depends on anything, MTL Not going to move Romanov plus for a dman who will be 35 at the time. I dont think that makes them better enough in the short term to have any real affect, and certainly makes the habs worse long term. If it was Brook or something with a first maybe and i for sure wouldnt be adding Byron in to increase the cost.
        23 août 2021 à 10 h 28
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        Montreal is not moving Romanov and a 1st for Letang, even with an extension.
        23 août 2021 à 10 h 34
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        I love malkin but no way a 34yo pulls that much
        23 août 2021 à 11 h 10
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        What the?

        Devils, Rangers, Habs give you 6th rounders for Rust, Malkin, Letang.
        They'll all be UFAs a week later.
        23 août 2021 à 11 h 14
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        Quoting: NHLfan10506
        What the?

        Devils, Rangers, Habs give you 6th rounders for Rust, Malkin, Letang.
        They'll all be UFAs a week later.


        They are all agreeing to contracts in the trades
        23 août 2021 à 11 h 20
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        Quoting: Imagine875948
        They are all agreeing to contracts in the trades


        That is not how it works though.
        The other teams would just wait a week, and sign them as UFAs.
        23 août 2021 à 11 h 40
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        That is not how it works though.
        The other teams would just wait a week, and sign them as UFAs.


        That's not how that works though. Cant just wait a week and there guaranteed to sign with your team
        23 août 2021 à 11 h 43
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        Quoting: Imagine875948
        That's not how that works though. Cant just wait a week and there guaranteed to sign with your team


        Look at the trades made for pending UFAs in recent years.
        Teams aren't giving up young core players and 1st round picks.
        Maybe...maybe you can find a late pick.

        Goodrow - 6th rounder
        Hayes - 5th rounder
        23 août 2021 à 11 h 49
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        Look at the trades made for pending UFAs in recent years.
        Teams aren't giving up young core players and 1st round picks.
        Maybe...maybe you can find a late pick.

        Goodrow - 6th rounder
        Hayes - 5th rounder


        They aren't Letang and Malkin
        23 août 2021 à 11 h 54
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        Quoting: Imagine875948
        They aren't Letang and Malkin


        Show me one trade you could use as a comp for these trades, and I'll bite.
        But there are none.

        Even this year, the rumored cost for Dougie Hamilton was a 3rd or 4th rounder.
        23 août 2021 à 12 h 6
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        Zero way the Leafs do that. Knies is a great prospect, Zucker is aging and on a terrible contract
        23 août 2021 à 12 h 29
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        Quoting: Imagine875948
        Do you think he can get that value from a different team?


        Not him but.., you mean Rust? He's not gonna fetch a bigger return than Reinhart I'll tell ya that much.
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