Yes

Rielly’s value is a first. I’d just leave it there.

Not for that he doesnt

If rielly is worth that, then risto is worth a 5th

Philly overpaid. But both guys are playing like second pair d men right now. The shine is off rielly.

Certainly a non playoff team like CBJ aren't trading for a rental.

Id probably want a good young player and I don't think Columbus does that given that Rielly wont want to resign there and he also wont play top pair because of Werenski

Here's how that conversation goes
KD: Got a trade Jarmo says above
JK : Dead air
KD: Jarmo still there Jarmo? Jarmo?

Not true at all, risto plays like a 7th defender who is a pp specialist and Rielly plays like a top pairing offensive defender. Hes not the best in his own Onw but he drives play in all situations, is a zone entry and exit machine and easily worth closer to jones than risto

There’s one city in the world where people think rielly is a legit top pair d man.

If rielly isnt a 1st pairing defender, there are like 20 in the entire league

Probably closer to 50. Rielly is right outside that range.

Well you might’ve wasted getting a first in return because if the pick is top 2 it goes back to Chicago

Well if there are 32 teams, there are 64 top pairing defenders. And at worst, rielly is in the late 30s

Pretty sure we would then hold the condition of it meaning we get the 2023 1st

Not every team has two top pairing guys. Not every team has a number one.

Rielly is probably somewhere in the 50 range.

Every team doesnt need to have 2 for there to be 64, that just means teams some teams have 3 or more. Like how toronto and pitt have two 1c's etc.
And Reilly is a top pair defender, even by your own numbers

Cbj does not need him what so ever. We have werenski gavrikov bean lehtonen kukan and Harrington on the left and peeke and boqvist on the right. Bean kukan lehtonen werenski and boqvist are all offensively minded defenseman. We do not need him.

I think there are some things in this league that are scarce. Top pair d men are one of them.

Yeah, thats not how it works. If you are one of the 64 best defenders you are a top pairing dman because you should be on the top pairing

It’s most definitely how it works.

No, you see if you are good enough to play on a top pairing, you are a top pairing defender. It's right there in the name.
They arnt called "30 or so defenders i think are really good". You wanna argue theres a few bigger drop offs between players at 40-45 than there is 20-25, go for it but they're still all top pairing defenders

This is a really ****ty trade for Columbus, can't see Jarmo having any interest in this.

Fat no from Columbus lmao