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Créé par: MNHockey19
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 25 juill. 2021
Publié: 25 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Trying to find a happy medium for this type of idea based off responses from my last post. I also compared hertl to trades such as Taylor Hall to Arizona and Duchene to Columbus a few years ago. Also got Glendening and Subban ideas from a couple articles and podcasts that I had read/listened to
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
58 500 000 $
56 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
12 000 000 $
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MIN
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
CBJ
  1. Rask, Victor
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
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  1. Beckman, Adam
  2. O'Rourke, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
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MIN
  1. Subban, P.K. (4 500 000 $ retained)
NJD
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
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UFA - 2
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725 000 $725 000 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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25 juill. 2021 à 17 h 41
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I’m just gonna jump in to say Rask goes back with any trade for a C. At 4 mil, the other team will be taking less cap back and it’s a one year deal. It’s the same as when Galch was included in the Zucker deal.

But as for Menell, why not include him as an asset for a C?

PS love the PK idea. It’ll never happen but I love it.
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25 juill. 2021 à 17 h 47
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Quoting: jnowariak
I’m just gonna jump in to say Rask goes back with any trade for a C. At 4 mil, the other team will be taking less cap back and it’s a one year deal. It’s the same as when Galch was included in the Zucker deal.

But as for Menell, why not include him as an asset for a C?

PS love the PK idea. It’ll never happen but I love it.


What would you think about menell and rask for strome from either the rangers or blackhawks?
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25 juill. 2021 à 17 h 51
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What would you think about menell and rask for strome from either the rangers or blackhawks?


I’ve cooled a bit on Dylan and warmed a bit on Ryan. But I’d entertain that for both, I don’t think Menell is going to sign with the Wild but he is probably better than a lot of 3rd pair guys.
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25 juill. 2021 à 17 h 54
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Sharks likely want a Rossi or Boldy as part of package in return for Hertl
25 juill. 2021 à 17 h 58
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The conversation for Hertl starts with Boldy or Rossi. Nothing else will be considered.
25 juill. 2021 à 18 h 24
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The conversation for Hertl starts with Boldy or Rossi. Nothing else will be considered.


I don’t think Minnesota is willing to even talk to San Jose if they are asking for a Blue chip prospect in return for a one year rental in Hertl.
25 juill. 2021 à 18 h 24
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Sharks likely want a Rossi or Boldy as part of package in return for Hertl


I want a Ferrari but I’m not getting one. We’re talking about a one year rental here. As good as Hertl is, he’s looking at 1st and maybe a little throw in or a 2nd and a young NHLer. You aren’t getting top caliber prospect. This is what a rental gets.

And please don’t reply “then you aren’t getting Hertl,” it’s childish.
25 juill. 2021 à 18 h 28
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I want a Ferrari but I’m not getting one. We’re talking about a one year rental here. As good as Hertl is, he’s looking at 1st and maybe a little throw in or a 2nd and a young NHLer. You aren’t getting top caliber prospect. This is what a rental gets.

And please don’t reply “then you aren’t getting Hertl,” it’s childish.


If they move him would likely be a sign and trade to make sure they got another top centre prospect in return along with a 1st
25 juill. 2021 à 18 h 31
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If they move him would likely be a sign and trade to make sure they got another top centre prospect in return along with a 1st


Who’s looking to do a sign and trade? I’m honestly asking because I though Hertl wants to stay in SJS. This isn’t a Seth Jones scenario.
25 juill. 2021 à 18 h 42
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Who’s looking to do a sign and trade? I’m honestly asking because I though Hertl wants to stay in SJS. This isn’t a Seth Jones scenario.


He has publicly said he wants to stay, mostly it's sharks fans projecting how they think the team would treat Hertl if they decided to move on from him to "retool harder"

It is sounding more likely to be LaBanc and/or Meier getting moved this summer though
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25 juill. 2021 à 18 h 49
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He has publicly said he wants to stay, mostly it's sharks fans projecting how they think the team would treat Hertl if they decided to move on from him to "retool harder"

It is sounding more likely to be LaBanc and/or Meier getting moved this summer though


Given where you guys are at, it wouldn’t be surprising to move all 3. If Hertl really wants to stay through the rebuild, sign him. Otherwise they could get some good futures now, but the idea that you’re trading an extension for him doesn’t really have a base.

I’m also not trying to hate on you for wanting a damn near ready top 6 guy, but it doesn’t really enter the convo in this situation.
25 juill. 2021 à 19 h 57
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I wonder if Wild would part with O'Rourke in PK deal
25 juill. 2021 à 20 h 15
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Given where you guys are at, it wouldn’t be surprising to move all 3. If Hertl really wants to stay through the rebuild, sign him. Otherwise they could get some good futures now, but the idea that you’re trading an extension for him doesn’t really have a base.

I’m also not trying to hate on you for wanting a damn near ready top 6 guy, but it doesn’t really enter the convo in this situation.


From what I’ve heard San Joses owner is completely unwilling to rebuild because it will and I quote “Result in fans not wanting to buy tickets.” Classic cynical rich guy worried more about his fortunes rather than his franchises future.
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25 juill. 2021 à 22 h 40
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I wonder if Wild would part with O'Rourke in PK deal


Lol, absolutely not. PK is not in the Guerin mold and at that salary, you’d probably need to send something MIN way.

I say this most lovingly as I love PK. It’s just that he’s a shell of his former self and has a 4.5 mil cap hit in this case. He probably wouldn’t want to move there anyways since he’d probably see his ex around the holidays.
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26 juill. 2021 à 19 h 56
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I want a Ferrari but I’m not getting one. We’re talking about a one year rental here. As good as Hertl is, he’s looking at 1st and maybe a little throw in or a 2nd and a young NHLer. You aren’t getting top caliber prospect. This is what a rental gets.

And please don’t reply “then you aren’t getting Hertl,” it’s childish.


What's childish is offering a pile of horse turds for a top line center then getting your panties in a bunch when it's rejected. Get it together little guy.
26 juill. 2021 à 20 h 1
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What's childish is offering a pile of horse turds for a top line center then getting your panties in a bunch when it's rejected. Get it together little guy.


It’s about term. I asked to not respond with “well you aren’t getting him” because it doesn’t add anything. If you say, “that’s not enough for them to lose his play”, or “I think we could get more at the deadline” or “we want to resign him” those all add some thing.

Maybe you think Hertl is better than Reinhart and his one year left is worth more than a 1st and a B prospect. But the thing is the market wouldn’t for contract reasons.
26 juill. 2021 à 20 h 9
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It’s about term. I asked to not respond with “well you aren’t getting him” because it doesn’t add anything. If you say, “that’s not enough for them to lose his play”, or “I think we could get more at the deadline” or “we want to resign him” those all add some thing.

Maybe you think Hertl is better than Reinhart and his one year left is worth more than a 1st and a B prospect. But the thing is the market wouldn’t for contract reasons.


Resign is not the correct word here. It is re-sign. I know, I know, it's petty but hey let's at least try not to sound like children.
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26 juill. 2021 à 21 h 12
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What's childish is offering a pile of horse turds for a top line center then getting your panties in a bunch when it's rejected. Get it together little guy.


Isn't Couture your top line center? I guess if Hertl wants to re-sign you prob keep him - but the values not crazy.
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