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Minor Trades

Créé par: Wilbur
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 7 juill. 2021
Publié: 8 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2775 000 $
2900 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
21 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
35 000 000 $
34 000 000 $
32 250 000 $
1750 000 $
22 000 000 $
78 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
1875 000 $
35 250 000 $
22 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
2.
EDM
  1. Guttman, Cole [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Kahun, Dominik [Droits de RFA]
3.
EDM
    Detroit then sends Koskinen with 50% retained to TB for a 2021 7th and a 2022 6th round pick
    DET
    1. Koskinen, Mikko (2 225 000 $ retained)
    2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
    4.
    EDM
    1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
    5.
    EDM
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
    2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
    NJD
    1. Kassian, Zack (750 000 $ retained)
    6.
    EDM
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
    7.
    8.
    EDM
    1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (COL)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Enfoui
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2021
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de COL
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de TBL
    2022
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de CBJ
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de SJS
    2023
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $84 183 506 $669 339 $907 500 $-2 683 506 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 7
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 6
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 4
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    834 167 $834 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    750 000 $750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    850 000 $850 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 2
    875 000 $875 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1

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    8 juill. 2021 à 2 h 53
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    I can't see Hamilton coming to Edmonton when there are other options out there for him, especially in the U.S.
    8 juill. 2021 à 3 h 32
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    In 2021, Alex Stalock let in fewer goals than every Ottawa goaltender, he also never made a single save.

    I'm not sure where you think he fits in Ottawa's goalie depth

    Murray - NHL
    Forsberg - NHL
    Gustavsson - AHL
    Daccord - AHL
    Sogaard - AHL
    Mandolese - AHL
    Meriläinen - Minors
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    8 juill. 2021 à 3 h 52
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    Detroit declines, return not sufficent.
    8 juill. 2021 à 5 h 39
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    Cost at least a 3rd from each edm and tb
    8 juill. 2021 à 7 h 16
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    You gotta do some convincing for that many people to willingly come to Edmonton
    8 juill. 2021 à 7 h 22
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    Detroit got a 4th for retaining a little over $1M on David Savard at the trade deadline. Retaining half of Koskinen is going to cost more than what you're offering
    8 juill. 2021 à 8 h 6
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    Quoting: andrewnfld
    You gotta do some convincing for that many people to willingly come to Edmonton


    It's called "The McDavid Effect" 😊😊
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    8 juill. 2021 à 8 h 9
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    Quoting: HypotheticalImpossibility
    Detroit got a 4th for retaining a little over $1M on David Savard at the trade deadline. Retaining half of Koskinen is going to cost more than what you're offering


    This is Stevie Y doing his buds a solid. After schooling his mentor in trades last season, Mr Yzerman feels guilty and collects 3 picks, which is what his goal is this season, apparently...
    8 juill. 2021 à 10 h 45
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    Quoting: Wilbur
    This is Stevie Y doing his buds a solid. After schooling his mentor in trades last season, Mr Yzerman feels guilty and collects 3 picks, which is what his goal is this season, apparently...


    It's a whole lot easier and less expensive to buy Koskinen out.
    8 juill. 2021 à 11 h 23
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    Quoting: HypotheticalImpossibility
    Detroit got a 4th for retaining a little over $1M on David Savard at the trade deadline. Retaining half of Koskinen is going to cost more than what you're offering


    He already retained 50%, so the remaining salary is now $2.275M. If Detroit retains 50% of that, it comes to... just over $1M.

    Magic, huh? cool
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    10 juill. 2021 à 20 h 1
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    Quoting: sensibleguy
    In 2021, Alex Stalock let in fewer goals than every Ottawa goaltender, he also never made a single save.

    I'm not sure where you think he fits in Ottawa's goalie depth

    Murray - NHL
    Forsberg - NHL
    Gustavsson - AHL
    Daccord - AHL
    Sogaard - AHL
    Mandolese - AHL
    Meriläinen - Minors


    That is a pretty impressive list of "who the hell are these guys". I clearly see why you'd have issue with a cheap, veteran, solid, experienced NHL goaltender, when he would have to overcome this intimidating list of inexpensive, inexperienced not-NHL goaltenders. I completely understand why you'd not want your team to give away a valuable 7th pick when they could spend it on another Goaltender to add to this intimating list, instead of a bonafide NHL Goaltender, can't expect Sens management to do something that the management of a team like Tampa Bay would do.
    10 juill. 2021 à 22 h 24
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    Modifié 10 juill. 2021 à 22 h 49
    Quoting: CD282
    He already retained 50%, so the remaining salary is now $2.275M. If Detroit retains 50% of that, it comes to... just over $1M.

    Magic, huh? cool


    So, no. I made a bit of a mistake. I didn't factor in the prorating aspect. Detroit didn't pay 25% of Savard's whole contract last year, just 14 games worth. Rough math here, so take it with a mild grain of salt:
    $1,062,500 retained over 56 games is roughly $18,973.21 per game. Savard played 14 games with Tampa, so approximately $265,625 of retention. Detroit got a 4th for retaining $265,000.
    With that in mind, no. The offer is not good.

    Magic, huh?
    10 juill. 2021 à 23 h 34
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    Quoting: Wilbur
    That is a pretty impressive list of "who the hell are these guys". I clearly see why you'd have issue with a cheap, veteran, solid, experienced NHL goaltender, when he would have to overcome this intimidating list of inexpensive, inexperienced not-NHL goaltenders. I completely understand why you'd not want your team to give away a valuable 7th pick when they could spend it on another Goaltender to add to this intimating list, instead of a bonafide NHL Goaltender, can't expect Sens management to do something that the management of a team like Tampa Bay would do.


    That's funny

    Trade makes sense because six goalies under contract for 5 spots just isn't enough, lol
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    11 juill. 2021 à 0 h 12
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    That's funny

    Trade makes sense because six goalies under contract for 5 spots just isn't enough, lol


    So what you're saying is there's either going to be a trade or two, or Ottawa is going to have 2 AHL teams in the AHL, instead of 1 in the AHL and the other in the NHL, like they've had for the past few seasons 😊.

    Seriously though, that is far too many minor league goalies. Good thing Hoglander was dropped. But for the quantity, there isn't a lot of NHL-quality tenders in the org today.

    It is mind boggling how many good goalies have been there. Ottawa has been the envy of the NHL when it comes to young guardien de but, off the top of my head, flash in the pan Hammond, Elliott, Lehner, Bishop and the latest in Driedger (I've probably missed a few names) , so it is possible 3 of these and even Hoglander are NHL stars 3 or 4 years down the road.

    I am honestly curious if you are happy with the goaltending going into next season?
    11 juill. 2021 à 1 h 49
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    Quoting: Wilbur
    So what you're saying is there's either going to be a trade or two, or Ottawa is going to have 2 AHL teams in the AHL, instead of 1 in the AHL and the other in the NHL, like they've had for the past few seasons 😊.

    Seriously though, that is far too many minor league goalies. Good thing Hoglander was dropped. But for the quantity, there isn't a lot of NHL-quality tenders in the org today.

    It is mind boggling how many good goalies have been there. Ottawa has been the envy of the NHL when it comes to young guardien de but, off the top of my head, flash in the pan Hammond, Elliott, Lehner, Bishop and the latest in Driedger (I've probably missed a few names) , so it is possible 3 of these and even Hoglander are NHL stars 3 or 4 years down the road.

    I am honestly curious if you are happy with the goaltending going into next season?


    Yes, and there’s an issue with too many goalies in Ottawa. I’m expecting Seattle to claim one, two in the NHL, two in the AHL, one in the ECHL, and one in junior (Kingston).

    Murray is a solid starter, not top10, but capable, Forsberg is okay, but he’s under contract so he’s the backup.

    One of Gustavsson or Daccord will probably be selected by Seattle, but if Seattle takes a forward, then one of these two goalies will be traded. Sogaard is playing in Belleville (AHL), and Mandolese should head to the ECHL.

    Ottawa is just being cautious about losing a goalie, so they have an extra, and they have enough promise to get some AHL piece in a return if/when traded.

    Stalock would be better than Forsberg, but any trade for Stalock would need to send Forsberg the other way, and then Ottawa still has to lose one either to expansion or trade, after the expansion draft.

    Gustavsson was pretty decent last season, but I’m really excited about Sogaard.
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