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Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 jan à 11 h 23
Sujet:
Sandpaper
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>Bertuzzi played with Larkin and Mantha.. Kerfoot played with multiple wingers. Mikheyev, Johnsson, Kapanen, Engvall, etc. None of them come close to the calibre of line mates Bertuzzi had. Kerfoot's also a centre. They're more valuable than dime a dozen wingers. Kerfoot's versatile. Plus I said Bertuzzi's contract expires next season and Kerfoot's doesn't. That would cost the Leafs more on his contract, not to mention he's likely be exposed to Seattle and lost for nothing. Makes no sense for the Leafs. Again, I said MARGINAL upgrade to Bertuzzi. But the difference in the players is FAR less than Liljegren. Ok buddy?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>And you think Bertuzzi had it any easier? Last season AA pretty much forgot how to play and Mantha was on IR for quite awhile, So they split up Bertuzzi and Larkin. The some of the players Bertuzzi was paired shouldn't even be in the NHL anymore.
Kapanen's career numbers 41g + 49a for 90 points in 202 games
Bertuzzi's career numbers 49g + 79a for 119 points in 199 games
So does that mean Kapanen only marginally better than Kerfoot?</div></div>
Kerfoot and Bertuzzi play a completely different style of game. Comparing their stats is literally comparing apples to oranges.
Bert is more valuable to the Wings because he fits in so well with Larkin and Mantha. Regardless of if Kerfoot was the better player (I don't think he is, but hey, everybody has their opinions), his value would be inflated to the Wings for that reason. Also worth considering, the Wings have Hronek, Seider, Lindstrom, and potentially Tuomisto at RD. Liljegren isn't a bad prospect by any stretch of the imagination, but his value to the Wings isn't all that high because of the prospects they already have at that position.
In short, Detroit would decline. What they have is more appealing to them than what's offered.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 jan à 11 h 12
Sujet:
Revised Laine Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>digitalbath</b></div><div>Wings fans all say "wings pass" lol to every trade,
I actually think Ritchie might work out for the wings, hes only 25, former first round pick that hasnt panned out just yet, but he isnt exactly a bust
I dont think the wings would give up 3 picks for him, but id say maybe a prospect or a 4th rounder and i would go for it, Boston may end up waiving him anyway? so wings could take a flyer on him and see if he fits in? I like it, just change it to a single 4th ? if not thats cool too, try him out this next season and see what he does. \
Its tiring everyone just says pass, but doesnt even think about it</div></div>
Honestly, the value's not particularly bad here. The kicker is that the WIngs' bottom 6 is pretty full as is without factoring in potential prospects, and adding Ritchie doesn't really make the team significantly better. The Wings have bottom 6 guys in spades, and there's always a plethora available in free agency. Is it really worth spending anything at all to pick up a player when you could get a rough equivalent for free next season?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 jan à 11 h 09
Sujet:
2 major trades
Rebuilding teams don't pay draft picks for cap dumps. Detroit passes.
Also, Detroit's roster is already pretty much set. No need for additional players that are marginal improvements at best.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 jan à 11 h 07
Sujet:
Try this
Absolutely not. Having Barzal would be great, sure, but Detroit's 2022 1st is very likely top 5. Detroit has more holes to fill than a single center, and adding Barzal could potentially push them out of the basement. Considering that Stevie Y has said that the Wings will build from the draft, this move would probably hurt the Wings more than help.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 jan à 11 h 03
Sujet:
Futre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bigboi69</b></div><div>Mcdonagh has 5 years left and detriot will not be pressed against the cap at any time within the next 10 years so a second plus mcdonagh for leadership and a 1st could easily get berggren who is good but you are severely overrating him</div></div>
Just because Detroit has cap space doesn't mean they're in a hurry to spend it. McDonagh's contact will, in all likelihood, be an absolute anchor for the last few years of it, which is exactly what a rebuilding team like Detroit will be wanting to avoid. They'll be trying to compete around that time, and having that contract will be have an extremely negative impact on their cap situation.
Also worth considering, Detroit's blueliner average age is over 28. They don't need leadership, they need elite talent. We could argue McDonagh's elite status all day, but Detroit needs high draft picks, not a good defenseman already over 30 and due to start declining any time now.
McDonagh doesn't help the Wings in the short term or the long term because of where they are at and the direction of the team. A late 1st several years from now doesn't come close to offsetting the negative value that McDonagh's contract would have to a rebuilding team. Plus, you want a good prospect that's currently lighting up the SHL, from a team that needs picks and quality prospects over anything? No chance they make a deal like that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 déc 2020 à 21 h 01
Sujet:
Fitting under the cap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CrazyK04</b></div><div>Would do you want? You are giving up literally nothing for a couple high draft picks and a good player. Ottawa made these types of deals all the time.</div></div>
A late 2nd and a late 3rd are not what I'd call high draft picks.
Detroit's looking for roster flexibility for their rebuild. An already declining, smaller forward over 30 who is only going to get slower and worse, is signed for $5M for another 4 seasons does not qualify as roster flexibility. Detroit also has several holes that need filling, and they're building through the draft. Seeking short term gains like Johnson would only hurt their draft position now, and he would regress enough to be absolute anchor before the contract is up.
All in all, Johnson hurts the Wings in the short term and in the long term. Regardless of how good he is now, he has extremely negative value to the Wings.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 déc 2020 à 20 h 54
Sujet:
Hoffmans
I have a sneaking suspicion that Russell was extended so he could be exposed in the expansion draft. Wouldn't make much sense to trade him until after that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 déc 2020 à 20 h 52
Sujet:
Kuch LTIR
Johnson's trade value hasn't increased. Nobody wants him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 déc 2020 à 20 h 50
Sujet:
Who saw that coming
Wings fans' asking price is high is mostly because nobody wants Johnson. He was available for FREE and nobody took him. If the Wings don't take him at all, they're better off in the long term.
So, Tampa may have gained some time and a bit of leverage, but Johnson's trade value is still at an all time low.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 déc 2020 à 20 h 45
Sujet:
time to come home
None of these trades are remotely worth it to the Wings.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 déc 2020 à 20 h 43
Sujet:
Looking at them next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I agree Gostisbehere's value depends on how he plays this season.</div></div>
Even if he plays well, would he hold positive value to the Wings? At 28, with 2 years left at $4.5M, I'm not sure if he would be a good pickup.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 déc 2020 à 20 h 37
Sujet:
why would you give faulk that contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>In theory yes, you are hoping to fleece in every deal but do it with transparency. Not know from the get-go it's going to be an extremely lopsided affair. GM's don't have to make deals with you and if they do they instead will go out of their way to get back at you. Could even go into Offer-Sheet territory.</div></div>
GMs being petty like that would only ruin their own reputation. Nobody wants to deal with someone who will act like a petulant child if they feel they lost a trade or didn't get what they wanted.
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree here. The Wings taking Bozak might cost them draft positions, which is far more important than being a little bit better at this stage of the rebuild. For that reason, Bozak is more of a negative to the team than a positive, at least in my opinion.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 nov 2020 à 18 h 42
Sujet:
why would you give faulk that contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>I see where you're coming from but this deal significantly helps the roster regardless of how you view this team playing this year. Being too stingy might lose respect GMs have for you around the league. Why would you want to deal with guys who are trying nothing but to obliterate you in trades?</div></div>
To be fair, doesn't every GM try to obliterate each other in trades? But you're right, reputation damage is a pretty valid concern. With COVID ongoing and 1/3 of the league over the cap, I think Yzerman could probably get away with being stingy without much loss to his reputation, at least for now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 53
Sujet:
Better Cap options and more grit
Honestly, a 4th and 7th for Kerfoot isn't bad under normal circumstances, and one of the better teams in the league (if they had cap) would probably jump on that deal. Not Detroit though.
Helping a division rival with their cap troubles automatically tanks any trade value Kerfoot would have, and the Wings don't need an expensive 3C. Yzerman's going for maximum cap flexibility. The only players they have signed past 2022 is Larkin and Mantha. Kerfoot doesn't fit the direction the team is going, so there's no interest there either.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 49
Sujet:
why would you give faulk that contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>The Red Wings are benefiting way more in this deal. That's pure stinginess.</div></div>
You're mostly right, but consider it this way. The Wings are going to be bad this season. Adding Bozak and they're slightly better, but still bad. So the move doesn't really help them out that much. St. Louis would now have more cap to sign Vince Dunn, which is a huge benefit for them.
St. Louis needs to move cap, Wings don't desperately need a 2C right now. Wings hold all the leverage. Absolutely stingy, but why do favors for your opponents unless you can benefit greatly?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 44
Sujet:
The Bold
Is Shaw even going to play again? Detroit doesn't have to move Helm. He's overpaid, but still an effective Bottom 6 guy, good on the penalty kill, and very responsible defensively. No thank you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 39
Sujet:
why would you give faulk that contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Why is Kyrou in that deal? That's beyond absurd. Kyrou is a top prospect and Bozak can fill in DET need at 2C. Do a body swap and it benefits both teams. Biega for example. Bozak would be the Wings 2C and a guy they can flip at the deadline and Biega can be a taxi squad guy for STL. Also $5M off the books for the Blues.</div></div>
I don't think it would take Kyrou to move Bozak, but Detroit's not a charity. $5M is a lot of cap these days, even for a useful player. St. Louis would have to add a sweetener to entice the Wings.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 36
Sujet:
Rangers
The Wings trade is good from a value standpoint in my opinion, but I doubt they'd ever want Smith back. The fanbase got overhyped on Smith and turned on him (myself included). Bringing Smith back for anything remotely near cap dump market value would draw negative attention to the organization from the less rational portion of the fanbase.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 31
Sujet:
roster few trades made a signing
Detroit's not trading a good D prospect they just drafted unless it's for a package that they absolutely couldn't refuse. Grunstrom is not that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 28
Sujet:
idkkk
The Toronto trade is bad for Florida. Neither of those players are worth a second on their own. Combining them doesn't net you more picks.
The Detroit trade is a no go. If Wallinder reaches his potential, he will have a much bigger impact than Borgstrom would on the Wings. Besides, the Wings need prospects everywhere, so making a hole to plug another doesn't make sense for them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 21
Sujet:
Adding Cirelli
The offer is not good for Tampa, but do they really have much of a choice? They need to do something, and the entire league knows they're absolutely screwed cap-wise.
I think the only solution they have that doesn't involve massively losing a trade is to have Sergachev and Cirelli hold out and play in Europe this year. Hope the economy improves, and the going rate for cap dumps goes down. Even then, you'd have issues with Point needing a new contract. It's not a good play for the organization, but it would at least delay potentially losing a great young player for nothing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 14
Sujet:
trading for Ryan Oreilly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yzerplan_forthewin</b></div><div>You really think the red wings will give up the mighty Ryan Orielly nah you must be thinking of the blues Ryan Orielly you know the bad one</div></div>
The Blues should trade for Ryan O'Reilly, not the Devils.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 19 h 12
Sujet:
Solution without trading NTCs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigTramFan</b></div><div>Yeah that would be a real tough conversation..."Sorry Troy, I know you were looking forward to 2 years of losing in Detroit, but we have to send you to a contender in Florida..."</div></div>
You're missing the bigger point here. Maybe Stetcher would be happy with the trade, maybe he wouldn't. What this would say to other potential free agents is that Detroit may not honor a contract that you just signed, and that they can't be trusted to keep their word. "Just finished moving in to the area? Pack your bags, we're sending you out. Move again." "We promised you a 2nd line role with powerplay time? We promised someone else that they would have some stability here and we flipped them less than a month into a two year contract. Why would we keep a promise to you?" Those implications are far more damaging to a GM's reputation and would make signing other free agents way harder. Not worth it in the slightest.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 nov 2020 à 18 h 56
Sujet:
Rebuilding for the sake of rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I doubt the Wing;'s trade Lindstrom for True. Lindstrom is never going to put up a lot of points he is a defensive defenseman with a lot of poise for a player of his age and experience level. I don't know if you watched many of the games he played in last season but Mickey, Osgood, Murphy and Bertuzzi couldn't stop talking about how impressed they were with his play. Very few defensemen come in and play defensively like he did he doesn't get pressured in to making turnovers and he is perfectly fine eating the puck instead of trying to force a breakout pass that isn't there. He wasn't an Yzerman draft pick but he is the type of defenseman Yzerman loves he's big but mobile and defense is the #1 priority. I actually expect to see him on the opening night roster in the 3rd pair but with all the UFAs signed I'm not sure. Last season Lindstrom received a lot of the praise that Tuomisto has received this season. Which is why we are seeing Tuomisto in a lot of ACGM posts.</div></div>
I did get to watch Lindstrom a bit, and the eye test results were good. He was mostly unnoticeable in a good way, but did have the occasional good pass or smart defensive play. Considering he was a 21 year old rookie still in his first year on North American ice, I was impressed with him. Maybe I expected better relative Corsi numbers based on the eye test? What else strikes me as strange is that he's currently playing in the 2nd tier league in Sweden, when he should probably be in the SHL, which makes me doubt the eye test.
Regardless, trading a defenseman that's under 23 is usually a bad idea because of how much room they have to grow. I wouldn't make this deal, but was interested in the sales pitch.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 nov 2020 à 5 h 58
Sujet:
Rebuilding for the sake of rebuild
Interesting idea on the Wings trade. Not sure if they'd take it though.
Lindstrom is a strange case. He looked fine in his short stint this season, but analytics were not favorable. What's the story on True?
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