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HYPOTHETICAL If Marner signed the Rantanen contract

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Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 6 juill. 2021
Publié: 6 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Thanks Mitch.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
44 000 000 $
55 500 000 $
1925 000 $
11 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitch
49 250 000 $
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  1. Marner, Mitchell
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IGNORE THIS TRADE - THIS IS ESSENTIALLY DELETING CURRENT MARNER TO REPLACE WITH THE CHEAPER ONE
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TOR
SEA
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
Détails additionnels:
expansion
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TOR
  1. Domi, Max (2 300 000 $ retained)
CBJ
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TOR
  1. Järnkrok, Calle (800 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Abruzzese, Nick [Liste de réserve]
  2. Vehvilainen, Veini [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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AD, AG
UFA - 6
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C
UFA - 3
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AD
UFA - 3
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796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Marner, Mitch
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
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200 000 $200 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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725 000 $725 000 $
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UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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DG
NMC
UFA - 1
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DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $
DG
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 juill. 2021 à 1 h 27
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But we are drafting Graeme's bro, we cant move him!
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6 juill. 2021 à 1 h 29
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Say Marner is overpaid by a million dollars. Campbell is underpaid by the same amount so you're breakeven.
6 juill. 2021 à 1 h 32
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Meh. This team isn't really any better than the current one is.
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6 juill. 2021 à 1 h 39
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so basically if we got marner slightly cheaper we would've just overpaid a 30 year old blake coleman
6 juill. 2021 à 1 h 53
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Quoting: Rangsey
Say Marner is overpaid by a million dollars. Campbell is underpaid by the same amount so you're breakeven.


Problem is him and matthews both got overpaid based on term they got
6 juill. 2021 à 2 h 4
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Problem is him and matthews both got overpaid based on term they got


Oh well. I don’t agree about Matthews but even if I did it’s a drop in the bucket on 2 star players. Overpaying depth is what kills you.

Overpay marner by 1m and it’s 10% overpay Coleman by 1m and it’s 20%. When your bottom 6 is overpaid you run into serious trouble.
6 juill. 2021 à 3 h 24
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
so basically if we got marner slightly cheaper we would've just overpaid a 30 year old blake coleman


Yes because overpaying your post season no shows has worked out so well. Coleman is a monster in the playoffs and that contract is fair
6 juill. 2021 à 4 h 26
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Quoting: Theozler
Problem is him and matthews both got overpaid based on term they got


Matthews is not overpaid
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6 juill. 2021 à 4 h 34
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Yes because overpaying your post season no shows has worked out so well. Coleman is a monster in the playoffs and that contract is fair


Coleman is 0.5pts/game in the playoffs. Everyone loves him because he's effective and cheap, but once he isn't cheap anymore, the narrative will change. Same with Hyman.
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6 juill. 2021 à 6 h 54
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Quoting: deys3232
Matthews is not overpaid


For not getting 8 years I think he is
6 juill. 2021 à 9 h 29
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Coleman is 0.5pts/game in the playoffs. Everyone loves him because he's effective and cheap, but once he isn't cheap anymore, the narrative will change. Same with Hyman.


0.5 point with 0 powerplay time, everyone loves him because of the style he plays not the price, otherwise Gourde would also not be loved so much
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6 juill. 2021 à 9 h 54
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Quoting: Smitty426
But we are drafting Graeme's bro, we cant move him!


graeme > brandt wink
6 juill. 2021 à 9 h 57
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
so basically if we got marner slightly cheaper we would've just overpaid a 30 year old blake coleman


Overpay a guy who DOESNT have a history with knee injuries, is better defensively and offensively than Hyman, turns it up in the playoffs, and is about a 55-60 point guy with limited PP time, ya i'll take it. Unfortunately that's how free agency works.
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6 juill. 2021 à 9 h 58
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Anyone else getting serious Scott Darling vibes from Chris Driedger? I looked up some stats and it's eerily similary, buyer beware.
6 juill. 2021 à 9 h 58
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Quoting: Rangsey
Say Marner is overpaid by a million dollars. Campbell is underpaid by the same amount so you're breakeven.


difference is, we didn't sign the campbell deal
6 juill. 2021 à 10 h 3
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Anyone else getting serious Scott Darling vibes from Chris Driedger? I looked up some stats and it's eerily similary, buyer beware.


honestly i would be worried about paying him too but the Leafs NEED another goalie badly because i highly doubt Campbell is as good as he was this season. Driedger is the youngest one there so it made the most sense.

And if we're being honest - its pretty much impossible to predict a goalies future success for years to come. That being said, it is also up to the Leafs team defence to make Driedger look good (similar to what they did with Campbell, just to a lesser extent)
6 juill. 2021 à 10 h 6
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
so basically if we got marner slightly cheaper we would've just overpaid a 30 year old blake coleman


Much much more flexibility. Doesn't have to necessarily look like this. I could see a world where we trade for Garland instead of Coleman, maybe we move Rielly and find a way to sign Hamilton, heck maybe we could go after Hall if he signs for near 7
6 juill. 2021 à 10 h 27
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Quoting: adamorimoli61
honestly i would be worried about paying him too but the Leafs NEED another goalie badly because i highly doubt Campbell is as good as he was this season. Driedger is the youngest one there so it made the most sense.

And if we're being honest - its pretty much impossible to predict a goalies future success for years to come. That being said, it is also up to the Leafs team defence to make Driedger look good (similar to what they did with Campbell, just to a lesser extent)


Agreed there, I'm of the opinion that goaltending isn't even real, it's just a mirage haha.
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6 juill. 2021 à 10 h 47
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Quoting: adamorimoli61
Overpay a guy who DOESNT have a history with knee injuries, is better defensively and offensively than Hyman, turns it up in the playoffs, and is about a 55-60 point guy with limited PP time, ya i'll take it. Unfortunately that's how free agency works.


Coleman is a great pickup, but he's going to Dallas IMO
6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 2
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Coleman is a great pickup, but he's going to Dallas IMO


If he comes to Dallas he REALLY wants to come to Dallas. We don’t have a lot of cap if Miro is looking for a big contract right now
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7 juill. 2021 à 16 h 22
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Quoting: deys3232
Matthews is not overpaid


yes he is. For 5 seasons it's an insane overpay considering he hadn't accomplished anything before signing this contract, and it's only got worse, considering it's been 12 games that he's been bad in during the playoffs
7 juill. 2021 à 16 h 33
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yes he is. For 5 seasons it's an insane overpay considering he hadn't accomplished anything before signing this contract, and it's only got worse, considering it's been 12 games that he's been bad in during the playoffs


Best goal scorer in the league 🗿🗿
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Was not as bad as people think he was in the playoffs. Mainly got unlucy
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7 juill. 2021 à 16 h 34
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Quoting: Theozler
For not getting 8 years I think he is


I would rather have Matthews for 5 years than not have him at all
7 juill. 2021 à 16 h 35
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His effort level in the playoffs has been very subpar for quite some time now, so no he wasn't «unlucky». Good teams/players create their own luck.

Edit: Idk why it didn't quote your response to my comment, I clicked on «quote»
8 juill. 2021 à 15 h 17
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
yes he is. For 5 seasons it's an insane overpay considering he hadn't accomplished anything before signing this contract, and it's only got worse, considering it's been 12 games that he's been bad in during the playoffs


he quite literally has 11 points in his last 12 playoff games smile . But sure man, he's been bad. We'll go with that
 
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