Too much for Forsberg, too little for Ellis

way too much for a year of forsberg.

maybe 1st, 3rd, beaucage/ranta.

As a Preds fan, I'd be content with that Ellis proposal.

Not sure how I feel about the Forsberg one. For those saying it's a big overpay from COL, I think they're forgetting that $3M in retained salary is a lot to ask for.

Easy pass on the Ekholm deal. Amirov would be nice, but no interest in Liljegren from me.

A bit too much for Ellis, Tor one is fair, the Col one is complete trash. Maybe you could get a 1st and a prospect like Kaut but a 1 year rental will only get you so much, especially in the offseason where their value is lower than it is at TDL.

Ellis is a great player and Philly is desperate for a 1RD, but this is a decent overpay. Flyers decline

If Kaut were switched with Compher and the Preds were retaining $3m, then yeah, that's probably closer. But as is, you're talking about the equivalent of three first-round picks for a rental... Detroit got a 2nd for 1 year of Staal at $6m, so that to me is the barometer for cap and picks.

The Staal trade was a pure cap dump, and this Forsberg proposal clearly isn't. I don't think they're great comparables. If you swapped out Kaut for Compher, NSH shouldn't be retaining anything here.

Wasn't suggesting they were comparables, I was simply saying Detroit got a 2nd for paying someone $6m. For Forsberg, no retention, I'd do Compher + 1st + Beaucage. You're not going to get Justin Barron + 1st + 3rd + Kaut.

Barron kills that trade. COL isn’t trading Barron for a rental, because there isn’t anyway to keep him long term and considering what Arvidsson just fetched that is a huge reach. Swap Compher for Barron, and reduce the retention.

Yeah, I'd have no interest in that Compher, Beaucage, 1st proposal. I really don't want Compher at all.

Not sure Toronto wants to trade a prominent (Amirov) prospect for 1 year of Ekholm where he really doesnt fit into the lineup with Rielly Muzzin and Sandin holding down the left side and not much cap room to spare (even though you've retained)

That's fair, but to make it work with the cap, you're going to have to take back money no matter who the trade partner is.

And using the framework of rental deals over the past year or two, you're looking at a 1st, maybe a 3rd/4th, and a B-level prospect (e.g., Pageau, Burakovsky). Maybe add a little more to have him for a full season, but not much.

I think if Forsberg were to be made available, there would be multiple teams that would pony up more than a late 1st and some scraps. Sounds like COL fans don't have enough interest in him though.

Flat cap and an expansion draft. You just saw what Arvidsson got and I expect more weird trades like that. As for "scraps," you'd be getting a middle-six forward to fill in while you rebuild, the 1st, and Beaucage who would arguably be one of your better forward prospects outside of Tomasino. That sounds exactly like what a rebuilding team needs, but hey, you do you

Sorry, but even Joe Sakic can't get diamonds from coal every time. I'm confident that a 1st, a B prospect , and an overpaid 3rd liner isn't the best Poile could do IF he wanted to trade Forsberg - especially within the division.

If you added Ekholm to the Flyers, and kept all the players in the deal, what else would it take from us?

big no from leafs you arent getting two of out top 5 prospects for a rental