The Konecny talk is all driven by the Russo speculation, but the Wild don’t need another winger. Especially one at that cap hit when there will be good, cheaper, options available in FA (not a knock on Konecny). But the idea that Dumba is worth a 10 spot jump really sells him low, and MIN can’t loose a trade like that.

I think you're missing an important point here: raw value doesn't always mean a good trade, there has to be a fit. As a matter of fact, I'd argue a handful of these trades are technically "fair" but they aren't good fits.

In the case of Ghost and Voracek, my point isn't that I think they have a lot of value, they don't. My point is using premium assets to get them off the books when they are still good players is something Philly really shouldn't do

My thinking is that it's not only a 10-slot advance but also expansion-draft protection for Greenway, Hartman and Foligno.

On his current deal, I think you’re looking at a 2nd and mid tier prospect. I think Bennett is a reasonable trade comp.

I saw this too late lol. This means my value on my recent post is off. My bad.

Can we add the JvR trades to NJD?

Three things I don't agree with here.

1) Risto is not a bad player, he plays in a bad team. He had a solid season until he got covid, and then BUF started sinking lower than ever before. If I'm Buffalo I wouldn't trade him for Patrick 1-on-1. Statistically speaking Patrick is one of the worst players in the league.

2) paying a 3rd for Hamilton's rights is distinctively different from an actual sign-and-trade, because in a sign-and-trade you're not acquiring a UFA, but rather a player on a contract fully in your respective teams jurisdiction. CAR has given Hamilton permission to negotiate with other teams for this exact reason so they wouldn't lose him completely for free. I'm not saying CAR is getting full value as their leverage is low, but the circumstance is very different from the likes of Hayes and Edmundson UFA rights low picks trade.

3) Ghost is overpaid for a bottom-4 offensive D-man and during the tight cap era no one is taking him off your hands with no compensation. Imo 2nd rounder compensation is not far from reasonable, but if Flyers is not willing to do such move then I suppose Shayne's staying there.

You may be right about ghost but not to Detroit. To Detroit he is a cap dump. Find another team unless you want to pay.

That's fair. I genuinely believe the Flyers would rather keep them than pay any real positive asset for a team to take him

1. Risto is just not good and to tie this into 3. Not as good as ghost at roughly the same cap hit I believe,

2. A team is paying for the extra year of contract (8 rather than 7) sign and trades just don’t happen but I could see this one happening. Is a team going to pay a first to save 1m in cap? Probably not. Even if it is for 7 years.

Meh, the only name there I care about is Foligno. I see the logic but I’d go in a different direction. I do think the market logic shifts drastically for Dumba after expansion and that needs to factor in as well.

I think SEA take Soucy over one of the FWDs. Heck they might even take him over Dumba. I think Dumba is the better player, but not $3.25m/yr better and SEA has a better chance in re-signing Soucy.

I'd rather take Risto over Ghost tbh. Both are 2nd pair offensive D-men at best but Risto plays the preferable right side and is more physical. He's more useful in different scenarios.

As for Hamilton, it's increasingly difficult to say what would his sign-and-trade cost as fundamentally this sort of thing where the former team gives permission to the player to negotiate further just doesn't happen. But I'd say it's within a threshold of 2nd+prospect/roster player to even out the cap.

Can't fathom why Soucy would suddenly be so desirable option? According to the site's advanced stats Soucy, simply put, sucks.