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Is Bishop a top 5 goalie in the League?

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21 mai 2017 à 18 h 37
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1. Price
2. Holtby
3. Bobrovksy
4. Crawford
5. Quick
6. Lundqvist
7. Rask
8. Murray
9. Rinne
10. Schneider
11. Bishop
12. Andersen
13. Gibson
14. Allen
15. Jones


Wow, i think Crawford is the most overrated goalie in the league. Ahead of Murray, Lundqvist, and Dubnyk??


Crawford has stood on his head so much for them that it's ridiculous. If Kane isn't going, then Crawford better be keeping them in some games. Crawford has saved them multiple times in the playoffs. To me, Crawford is more consistent than Murray and Lundqvist. Dubnyk was hot this season, but when he got cold he got cold
21 mai 2017 à 21 h 35
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Wow, i think Crawford is the most overrated goalie in the league. Ahead of Murray, Lundqvist, and Dubnyk??


Crawford has stood on his head so much for them that it's ridiculous. If Kane isn't going, then Crawford better be keeping them in some games. Crawford has saved them multiple times in the playoffs. To me, Crawford is more consistent than Murray and Lundqvist. Dubnyk was hot this season, but when he got cold he got cold

Same could be said with Jake Allen as well as Anderson, they've had some pretty bad stretches too. Too say Dubnyk isn't better than half these guys, I can't wrap my head around
8 juin 2017 à 17 h 29
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Holtby
Bobrovsky
Price
Rinne
Quick (when not injured)
8 juin 2017 à 17 h 46
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Price
Lundqvist
Holtby
Schneider
Rask/Dubnyk/Bobrovsky
14 juill. 2017 à 15 h 55
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Holtby
Bobrovsky
Price
Rinne
Quick (when not injured)


*Holtby isn't good enough for top 5*
16 juill. 2017 à 18 h 26
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My top 20 in the Playoffs
1.Rinne
2.Murray
3.Fleury
4.Gibson
5.Anderson
6.Allen
7.Holtby
8.Lundvquist
9.Price
10.Jones
11.Talbot
12.Dubnyk
13.Andersen
14.Bobrovsky
15.Rask
16.Crawford
17.Elliott
18.Saros
19.Johnson
20.Bernier
17 juill. 2017 à 16 h 53
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Without order: Fleury, Lundqvist, Price, Holtby, Rinne
26 juill. 2017 à 18 h 28
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
Price
Lundqvist
Holtby
Schneider
Rask/Dubnyk/Bobrovsky


Bob has to be top 5 ... if Schneider is for sure top 5 Bob is top 3. I think Bob's the best goalie in the league actually.
26 juill. 2017 à 19 h 21
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Top 5
1 Flurry Golden Knights
2 Quick Kings
3 Howard Redwings
4 Mzerk Red Wings
5 Price Canadiens
In The Mix
Crawford Hawks
Rask Bruins
Bishop Stars
27 juill. 2017 à 1 h 7
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Top 5
1 Flurry Golden Knights
2 Quick Kings
3 Howard Redwings
4 Mzerk Red Wings
5 Price Canadiens
In The Mix
Crawford Hawks
Rask Bruins
Bishop Stars


Sorry but Howard and Mrazek but not Bobrovsky? I don't see how Howard is better than Price and Bobrovsky.
16 sept. 2017 à 22 h 16
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I'd probably go:

1 Holtby
2 Price
3 Murray
4 Howard
5 Schneider
6 Darling
7 Rinne
8 Dubnyk
9 Bobrovsky
10 Bishop
11 Budaj
12 Luongo
13 Fleury maybe

...obviously this is based not only pon save pctage this year but also upon reliability over several years. Bishop is good but I'd say top 10 at best.


Darling at 6??
17 sept. 2017 à 13 h 23
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there hasn't been a single agreeable list in this thread.
19 sept. 2017 à 5 h 23
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Rask is Top 5
21 sept. 2017 à 1 h 50
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Rask is Top 5


Maybe a few years ago.
His stats have fallen every year since 2012. Until he starts trending back upwards he's not a top 5 goalie in the league.
21 sept. 2017 à 15 h 30
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Rask is Top 5


Maybe a few years ago.
His stats have fallen every year since 2012. Until he starts trending back upwards he's not a top 5 goalie in the league.


I don't necessarily think that is fair. A goalies stats can reflect his teams play. The worse the team, the worse the goalie (Most times). Swap Rask with Fleury or Murray in Pittsburgh and we'd be hailing Rask as one of the best goalies in the league. I don't think Rask is a top 5 goalie but not because of the reason you had mentioned.

Budaj had stupendous numbers last year but I wouldn't qualify him as a top 10-15 goalie in the league..... Exaggeration I know but the principle is there.
21 sept. 2017 à 20 h 24
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Maybe a few years ago.
His stats have fallen every year since 2012. Until he starts trending back upwards he's not a top 5 goalie in the league.


I don't necessarily think that is fair. A goalies stats can reflect his teams play. The worse the team, the worse the goalie (Most times). Swap Rask with Fleury or Murray in Pittsburgh and we'd be hailing Rask as one of the best goalies in the league. I don't think Rask is a top 5 goalie but not because of the reason you had mentioned.

Budaj had stupendous numbers last year but I wouldn't qualify him as a top 10-15 goalie in the league..... Exaggeration I know but the principle is there.


Yeah good point. However most top 5 goalies are on the best teams in the NHL
22 sept. 2017 à 12 h 31
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I don't necessarily think that is fair. A goalies stats can reflect his teams play. The worse the team, the worse the goalie (Most times). Swap Rask with Fleury or Murray in Pittsburgh and we'd be hailing Rask as one of the best goalies in the league. I don't think Rask is a top 5 goalie but not because of the reason you had mentioned.

Budaj had stupendous numbers last year but I wouldn't qualify him as a top 10-15 goalie in the league..... Exaggeration I know but the principle is there.


Yeah good point. However most top 5 goalies are on the best teams in the NHL


Well I would think the better a goalies stats are, the better the team around him would be. Rare to see a goalie with a 2.00 GAA and a .930 SV% (minimum 40+ games) on a non playoff team yet its much easier for a player to have 40-50 goals on a non playoff team team. Example Ovechkin in 13-14.

Anyhoo i don't think Rask is a top 5 goalie even based off pure skills and not stats but then again that is really hard to determine. So its kind of like you have to go with statistics to make your assumption, even though some get the benefit of starting on excellent teams that make stopping 18 shots a night rather easy.
27 sept. 2017 à 6 h 46
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Not surprising to me that Lundqvist has fallen so much in people's eyes (except islanderrangerfan). Surprised that that no one had Freddie Anderson on the list, so many have the Leafs defence the worse since the 1972 Washington Capitals.
27 sept. 2017 à 12 h 51
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Rask is Top 5


Maybe a few years ago.
His stats have fallen every year since 2012. Until he starts trending back upwards he's not a top 5 goalie in the league.


Stats shmats, team was going through a D transition. A goalie is only as good as the D in front of them!!!
27 sept. 2017 à 13 h 48
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Maybe a few years ago.
His stats have fallen every year since 2012. Until he starts trending back upwards he's not a top 5 goalie in the league.


Stats shmats, team was going through a D transition. A goalie is only as good as the D in front of them!!!


Wow Montreal's defense must be fantastic with the numbers Carey Price puts up.
28 sept. 2017 à 1 h 3
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Stats shmats, team was going through a D transition. A goalie is only as good as the D in front of them!!!


Wow Montreal's defense must be fantastic with the numbers Carey Price puts up.


He was, but not anymore, he's old news
28 sept. 2017 à 1 h 11
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1. Holtby
2. Price
3. Bob
4. Murray
5. Talbot/Dubnyk
29 sept. 2017 à 14 h 0
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1.) Price
2.) Bobs
3.) Talbot
4.) Quick
5.) Murray
29 sept. 2017 à 16 h 21
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1.) Price
2.) Bobs
3.) Talbot
4.) Quick
5.) Murray


Quick? Lol what?
6 oct. 2017 à 13 h 0
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Rinne
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