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We have to go back to go forward

Créé par: Kyle_Davidson
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 16 mai 2021
Publié: 17 mai 2021
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We have a good foundation of future players, but this is not a team that will take the next step towards being a contender without leaning into the rebuild. That is to say that we need some high end talent that you can only get through the top of the draft. If we commit to the rebuild we should be all into it, not trying to half ass it to get to the playoffs one before realizing later that we need to rebuild again. I’m not trying to say I would be happy about moving on from these guys, I do think this is the correct move for the future success of the franchise.
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17 mai 2021 à 22 h 30
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Who do you think the Hawks will be eying with their 1st in 2021?
17 mai 2021 à 22 h 30
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How dare you.
17 mai 2021 à 22 h 31
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LOL Pretty Quick Rangers decline.
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17 mai 2021 à 22 h 31
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Agreed. Hawks won't be a conteder as long as Toews, Kane, and Kieth are here. If it was just Kane it would be a a different story. Toews and Kieth are the problems though not Kane. Hawks have a good young core but lack a top pair LD and top 6 RW. Both of those won't be easy to get
17 mai 2021 à 22 h 40
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Uhh... no
17 mai 2021 à 22 h 41
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I think that's a pretty well worked deal with Philly if Chicago is willing to accept that Patrick is a bit of a project now unless all he needs is a change of scenery. Honestly it's probably a bit in Philly's favor maybe take out the fourth and call it even? break the trade down as Murphy for 13OA and Strome for Patrick and a 3rd
17 mai 2021 à 22 h 41
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Agreed. Hawks won't be a conteder as long as Toews, Kane, and Kieth are here. If it was just Kane it would be a a different story. Toews and Kieth are the problems though not Kane. Hawks have a good young core but lack a top pair LD and top 6 RW. Both of those won't be easy to get


And we won't get low enough to get a top pick with them there unless we win lottery like we did with Dach. Going to have to Give to Get for those 2 positions of need.
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17 mai 2021 à 22 h 42
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No top dman, no top players coming back.. pass
Bunch of lottery tickets
17 mai 2021 à 23 h 7
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Fans of both teams will disagree on the Kane trade...
18 mai 2021 à 2 h 21
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Quoting: Canesfan8875
Fans of both teams will disagree on the Kane trade...


Ya I don't think that's a good trade for NY because they lose too many pieces. But I also think Kane would fetch I way better package than that. It's a weird one lol.
18 mai 2021 à 5 h 50
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As much as Murphy would fit a need in PHI, I cant see them wanting Strome. PHI doesn't lack forwards and csant take that much salary. Patrick and a 3rd for Murphy maybe, but cant see PHI wanting/needing Strome, and especially not at the cost of a good 1st rounder.
18 mai 2021 à 8 h 3
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
I think that's a pretty well worked deal with Philly if Chicago is willing to accept that Patrick is a bit of a project now unless all he needs is a change of scenery. Honestly it's probably a bit in Philly's favor maybe take out the fourth and call it even? break the trade down as Murphy for 13OA and Strome for Patrick and a 3rd


HAHAHA we aren't giving up 13OA for Connor Murphy
18 mai 2021 à 12 h 36
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HAHAHA we aren't giving up 13OA for Connor Murphy


13OA in a draft that has barley been scouted and these player haven't really had the chance to play in some cases the WHL is the only
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HAHAHA we aren't giving up 13OA for Connor Murphy


13OA in a draft that a good amount of players haven't played in over a year and haven't been scouted due to the pandemic murphy is a solid second pair option the defense needs to be reshaped we all thought that Myers was a good second pair guy but after this season I wouldn't mind having him on the third pair to at least start. Obviously bigger moved need to be made but this draft is going to be more of a gamble then it normally is. This team doesn't need more prospects it need impact players now unless they see a potential top pair RHD I wouldn't mind them moving the pick
18 mai 2021 à 12 h 41
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13OA in a draft that has barley been scouted and these player haven't really had the chance to play in some cases the WHL is the only

13OA in a draft that a good amount of players haven't played in over a year and haven't been scouted due to the pandemic murphy is a solid second pair option the defense needs to be reshaped we all thought that Myers was a good second pair guy but after this season I wouldn't mind having him on the third pair to at least start. Obviously bigger moved need to be made but this draft is going to be more of a gamble then it normally is. This team doesn't need more prospects it need impact players now unless they see a potential top pair RHD I wouldn't mind them moving the pick


We can absolutely move the pick but not for a meh middle pair guy. And i'm pretty sure scouts know who should be in the top 15 and who the top players are even without getting a normal look at them. @13 we would expect to get a guy who has top pairing potential or top line potential. We should be looking at guys like Dumba or Seth jones with that pick (and probably more), not Murphy.
18 mai 2021 à 12 h 43
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
We can absolutely move the pick but not for a meh middle pair guy. And i'm pretty sure scouts know who should be in the top 15 and who the top players are even without getting a normal look at them. @13 we would expect to get a guy who has top pairing potential or top line potential. We should be looking at guys like Dumba or Seth jones with that pick (and probably more), not Murphy.


Unfortunately I don't think Jones is an option apparently they are looking for a !C for him as for Dumba I'd be fine with a move for him I just don't know how him and Provorov would play together
18 mai 2021 à 12 h 52
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
Unfortunately I don't think Jones is an option apparently they are looking for a !C for him as for Dumba I'd be fine with a move for him I just don't know how him and Provorov would play together


With Murphy we are literally giving Provy the same crap he has had outside of Niskanen. A guy that shouldn't be playing 20+ minutes a night but is forced to because we have nobody else that can do it. If we can't get someone who can legit play top pairing then we don't need to spend draft capital or overpay a UFA. Another year without will suck but so would paying someone who can't do the job.
18 mai 2021 à 13 h 29
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With Murphy we are literally giving Provy the same crap he has had outside of Niskanen. A guy that shouldn't be playing 20+ minutes a night but is forced to because we have nobody else that can do it. If we can't get someone who can legit play top pairing then we don't need to spend draft capital or overpay a UFA. Another year without will suck but so would paying someone who can't do the job.


I don't view Murphy as a top pair guy like I said I se him as a second pair guy until Myers proves he's a second pair guy or better after the season he just had he should start next year on the third pair the main priority should be a number 1 RHD but I still think there are other additions to be made on the right side of the defense Braun was good this year but I don't know if they can depend on him to be a top 4 guy again next season and he's not making so much money that I'd have a problem with him being a seven I only see Murphy as a guy who could be brought in and honestly what I liked most about this deal is bringing in Strome. He's produced way better than Patrick and would help solidify 3C IF they want to keep Laughton on the wing

edit: I didn't realize how much Strome was making that kind of ruins the purpose of the deal in my eyes
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