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Eichel

Créé par: mauston_atthews
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 25 mars 2021
Publié: 25 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
45 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
23 400 000 $
24 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 500 000 $
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  1. Chytil, Filip [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kakko, Kaapo
  3. Kravtsov, Vitali
  4. Lundkvist, Nils [Liste de réserve]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
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2081 500 000 $79 268 134 $0 $4 582 500 $2 231 866 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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NMC
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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UFA - 6
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
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UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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797 500 $797 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DG
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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RFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
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825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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737 500 $737 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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25 mars 2021 à 10 h 40
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If he is getting traded, this would be acceptable to buffalo.
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25 mars 2021 à 10 h 41
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I think this is a little too much
25 mars 2021 à 10 h 46
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
If he is getting traded, this would be acceptable to buffalo.


dont forget about Seattle too.
25 mars 2021 à 10 h 47
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I think this is a little too much


yeah Buffalo asked for 4 firsts equivilent thats about 5 and a half
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25 mars 2021 à 10 h 49
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Quoting: Kravtsov_Stan
yeah Buffalo asked for 4 firsts equivilent thats about 5 and a half


Agreed. I'd say take out Chytil or Kravtsov, and maybe the 2nd. I'm honestly still convinced that Kakko+Strome+Lundkvist/Schneider+2021 (Or 2022) 1st+something along the lines of a 2nd or B prospect would be a very reasonable offer.
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25 mars 2021 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: Lenny7
Agreed. I'd say take out Chytil or Kravtsov, and maybe the 2nd. I'm honestly still convinced that Kakko+Strome+Lundkvist/Schneider+2021 (Or 2022) 1st+something along the lines of a 2nd or B prospect would be a very reasonable offer.


My offer was Kaako, Chytil, Schneider/Lundkvist, 2021 first
25 mars 2021 à 10 h 54
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My offer was Kaako, Chytil, Schneider/Lundkvist, 2021 first


I know it seems weird to people but I think it will be Lundkvist because we already have Fox and Jones as small offensive defenseman so I think Gorton would rather keep schneider because he adds a pest like physicality
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25 mars 2021 à 10 h 55
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My offer was Kaako, Chytil, Schneider/Lundkvist, 2021 first


Yeah, that'd be 100% fine IMO as well. The only reason I've had Strome (Or Zibs) in the deal over Chytil is to move some salary in Buffalo's direction. IMO, the roster player didn't really matter. I also don't think this empties the farm in NY at all, given that every one of those players is replaceable with other guys in the system, or who are already on the team.
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25 mars 2021 à 10 h 57
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Quoting: Lenny7
Yeah, that'd be 100% fine IMO as well. The only reason I've had Strome (Or Zibs) in the deal over Chytil is to move some salary in Buffalo's direction. IMO, the roster player didn't really matter. I also don't think this empties the farm in NY at all, given that every one of those players is replaceable with other guys in the system, or who are already on the team.


I agree but I doubt Zib waives his NMC he loves New York and also who would chose to play for the buffalo sabres
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25 mars 2021 à 11 h 10
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Quoting: Kravtsov_Stan
I agree but I doubt Zib waives his NMC he loves New York and also who would chose to play for the buffalo sabres


100% agreed.
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25 mars 2021 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: Lenny7
Yeah, that'd be 100% fine IMO as well. The only reason I've had Strome (Or Zibs) in the deal over Chytil is to move some salary in Buffalo's direction. IMO, the roster player didn't really matter. I also don't think this empties the farm in NY at all, given that every one of those players is replaceable with other guys in the system, or who are already on the team.


i don't think a trade would include both Kakko and Kravtsov because one of those two need to be 2RW- unless they plan to move one of Kreider/Panarin/Laf to the RW.
I also would prefer they move Schneider over Lundkvist. hard to say but I feel like Lundkvist may have a higher ceiling...
if a trade is made to acquire Eichel, the writing is on the wall for Zib, they most likely will not be able to afford both beyond next season.
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25 mars 2021 à 11 h 36
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For ppl making these trades, think back to what the original ask was from Columbus for Nash (multiple of kreider, stepan, mcdonagh and del zotto) and they didn’t get a single one of them. They got Dubinsky who was a 2/3c, Anisimov who was an upside 3c, erixon who was a 21 year old former first round pick playing in the ahl, and a 1st rounder.

The equivalent of that is essentially Strome, Chytil, hajek, a 1st and 3rd rounder (since hajek was a 2nd round pick I threw in the 3rd as well)

Nash was 25/26 at the time of the trade and had 5 30 goal seasons and 2 40 goal seasons. Also had multiple seasons above 60 points. Very good comparable for eichel with the only difference being eichel is a center.

He requested the trade (which is also the only way eichel will be traded) which lowered his value a bit. A return of Strome, kravtsov, Lundkvist and a 1st is a lot more than the return Nash got and is very close to the rumored asking price of 4 1st rounders (or former first rounders). I doubt anyone beats that in terms of the quantity of quality. Now if LA offers up turcotte or byfield, they obviously won’t have the other pieces on top so it’s up to Buffalo what they’d prefer. Since no trade has been made yet, I don’t think LA offered either of them.
25 mars 2021 à 12 h 2
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So if Buffalo called and said you can have Eichel for the price listed above you would say no?
25 mars 2021 à 18 h 32
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25 mars 2021 à 18 h 43
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Quoting: Spanky227
For ppl making these trades, think back to what the original ask was from Columbus for Nash (multiple of kreider, stepan, mcdonagh and del zotto) and they didn’t get a single one of them. They got Dubinsky who was a 2/3c, Anisimov who was an upside 3c, erixon who was a 21 year old former first round pick playing in the ahl, and a 1st rounder.

The equivalent of that is essentially Strome, Chytil, hajek, a 1st and 3rd rounder (since hajek was a 2nd round pick I threw in the 3rd as well)

Nash was 25/26 at the time of the trade and had 5 30 goal seasons and 2 40 goal seasons. Also had multiple seasons above 60 points. Very good comparable for eichel with the only difference being eichel is a center.

He requested the trade (which is also the only way eichel will be traded) which lowered his value a bit. A return of Strome, kravtsov, Lundkvist and a 1st is a lot more than the return Nash got and is very close to the rumored asking price of 4 1st rounders (or former first rounders). I doubt anyone beats that in terms of the quantity of quality. Now if LA offers up turcotte or byfield, they obviously won’t have the other pieces on top so it’s up to Buffalo what they’d prefer. Since no trade has been made yet, I don’t think LA offered either of them.


You can’t really compare Nash to eichel because of the age difference. The better comps would be seguin and Thornton IMO. Now, I’m not saying eichel is their talent. Eichel is better than seguin and we all know who Thornton is. I do agree eichel should be getting around the equivalent of 4 1sts or so. Just not sure if or what team will actually do it. As a kings fan I wouldn’t do this, but Turcotte/Byfield/Vilardi, kaliyev, ****emo, lizzotte, ‘21 1st. There’s no way they get this.... I’m curious, if he is traded, what the actual cost will be
25 mars 2021 à 19 h 0
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You can’t really compare Nash to eichel because of the age difference. The better comps would be seguin and Thornton IMO. Now, I’m not saying eichel is their talent. Eichel is better than seguin and we all know who Thornton is. I do agree eichel should be getting around the equivalent of 4 1sts or so. Just not sure if or what team will actually do it. As a kings fan I wouldn’t do this, but Turcotte/Byfield/Vilardi, kaliyev, ****emo, lizzotte, ‘21 1st. There’s no way they get this.... I’m curious, if he is traded, what the actual cost will be


Nash was 25/26 at the time of the trade. Eichel is 24/25. (I’m going off the year they were traded, it was that age year). The one year gap isn’t that much. There is more disparity in a wing vs a center. Like I said though, Nash netted two youngish middle six roster players, a young defensive prospect (that was nowhere near a top talent), and a first round pick. Keep in mind, Columbus also sent the rangers back a third rounder (I love the fact they picked Rychel and the rangers got buchnevich lol).

Obviously eichel should get a bit more since he is a center, but I don’t think it’ll be too much more. Rangers kept their top young players/prospects.

I could see la giving up vilardi and kaliyev, a middling roster player (iafallo or kempe?) and a 1st. I see rangers offering Strome, kravtsov, Lundkvist and a 1st. I don’t see any team offering more than either of those. Both of these returns are much more than Nash got. If eichel asks for a trade, Buffalo fans are going to be really upset.
25 mars 2021 à 19 h 9
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Quoting: Spanky227
Nash was 25/26 at the time of the trade. Eichel is 24/25. (I’m going off the year they were traded, it was that age year). The one year gap isn’t that much. There is more disparity in a wing vs a center. Like I said though, Nash netted two youngish middle six roster players, a young defensive prospect (that was nowhere near a top talent), and a first round pick. Keep in mind, Columbus also sent the rangers back a third rounder (I love the fact they picked Rychel and the rangers got buchnevich lol).

Obviously eichel should get a bit more since he is a center, but I don’t think it’ll be too much more. Rangers kept their top young players/prospects.

I could see la giving up vilardi and kaliyev, a middling roster player (iafallo or kempe?) and a 1st. I see rangers offering Strome, kravtsov, Lundkvist and a 1st. I don’t see any team offering more than either of those. Both of these returns are much more than Nash got. If eichel asks for a trade, Buffalo fans are going to be really upset.


Pretty sure he was 28. Was drafted in 2002, traded in 2012. That’s 10 years. Maybe he was 27. Either way both our points stand that they most likely won’t get what they want
 
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