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Mantha

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 17 mars 2021
Publié: 17 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Johnson, Erik
  2. Newhook, Alex [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (COL)
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17 mars 2021 à 12 h 46
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Rantanen at center????
17 mars 2021 à 12 h 47
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We would have to accept this deal, this is exactly what we need. Can't see the avs doing it but it's worth it for wings

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17 mars 2021 à 12 h 49
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For newhook, hell yes !!!!!!!!
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17 mars 2021 à 12 h 50
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Avs have enough wingers imo. This creates an even bigger log jam at the position next season and probably means Saad would leave as a UFA. Id much rather keep the assets and have Saad than go get Mantha
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17 mars 2021 à 12 h 52
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Newhook yes please, We don't need Johnson as our RD is our future strength, Too bad Colorado still Didn't have Zadarov. Newhook+Zadarov+Colorado's 2021 2nd would be outstanding.
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17 mars 2021 à 12 h 53
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Dear lord, are you crazy. Mantha doesn’t get them Newhook,

This would be one of the worst trades in avs history
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17 mars 2021 à 12 h 55
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Dear lord, are you crazy. Mantha doesn’t get them Newhook,

This would be one of the worst trades in avs history


For a guy who has 0 nhl games, worst trade in the history of the avs is quite a statement. Potential all day until it's time to perform. It's a no from avs obviously but to say worst trade in history is tardy on your part
17 mars 2021 à 12 h 55
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Take off Newhook entirely and its a reasonable deal.
17 mars 2021 à 12 h 57
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For a guy who has 0 nhl games, worst trade in the history of the avs is quite a statement. Potential all day until it's time to perform. It's a no from avs obviously but to say worst trade in history is tardy on your part


One of the top prospects in the entire nhl for an inconsistent and injury prone winger. Yeah it’s an awful trade and would be one of the worst in avs history

Mantha was healthy scratched this year, let’s not like he’s a stud
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17 mars 2021 à 12 h 57
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I wouldn't do this if I was the Avs. The biggest need would be in net or at C if anything. Newhook is going to be so good. I'd look at trading a different prospect if I was the Avs.
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17 mars 2021 à 12 h 57
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Quoting: moli92
Avs have enough wingers imo. This creates an even bigger log jam at the position next season and probably means Saad would leave as a UFA. Id much rather keep the assets and have Saad than go get Mantha


100% agree. They shouldn't even consider including Newhook in any trade unless it's a youngish C coming back. Neither LW or RW is a need. Might be a nice to have, but you don't trade Newhook for a nice to have.
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17 mars 2021 à 13 h 0
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One of the top prospects in the entire nhl for an inconsistent and injury prone winger. Yeah it’s an awful trade and would be one of the worst in avs history

Mantha was healthy scratched this year, let’s not like he’s a stud


Konecny was a healthy scratch this year too, means something different then what you think
17 mars 2021 à 13 h 1
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Konecny was a healthy scratch this year too, means something different then what you think


Poor play, if means exactly what it means
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17 mars 2021 à 13 h 2
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Quoting: coga16
Poor play, if means exactly what it means


Its sending a message to the player and team guy. Worst trade in avs history 😂, I said it's a pass by avs but you are ridiculous
17 mars 2021 à 13 h 4
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Its sending a message to the player and team guy. Worst trade in avs history 😂, I said it's a pass by avs but you are ridiculous


Nah I’m realistic, it’s like saying you would trade seider and a 1st for drouin. You want to go barking up that tree
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17 mars 2021 à 13 h 8
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Yeah its not the same. How many times did I say avs pass on this. You're just stupid. I'm done with you clown.


Value is value and it is the same, so you are proving my point at it would be an awful trade based on the value given for the level of player
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17 mars 2021 à 13 h 12
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Since you have nothing to add, looks like you agree with me that trading a top prospects in the entire nhl and high value draft picks for inconsistent and or injury prone players who produce at a 2nd line level due to those issues would be one of the worst trades a franchise could make
17 mars 2021 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Take off Newhook entirely and its a reasonable deal.


laugh laugh How's Erik Johnson+Colorado's 2nd round pick for Mantha a fair deal? First off Johnson is a $6 million cap dump he's RD which is a position that we're strong at he's 32 years old so the wrong side for our rebuild, And secondly i doubt Detroit's even on Johnson's trade list this is horrendous for Detroit. I agree Newhook being in the deal isn't happening but Johnson and a late 2nd round pick is purely laugh for Mantha.
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17 mars 2021 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: coga16
Value is value and it is the same, so you are proving my point at it would be an awful trade based on the value given for the level of player


There is something you're missing here, and its what 99% of people miss here on this site....context. It's not just about "vAluE"

Avs are in win-now mode. They are a cup contender. Despite what you might think, the rest of the league knows that Mantha is, in fact, a stud and elite winger on a really bad team. If the Avs feel like Mantha is the guy they want, they will be willing to overpay, and this is very similar to what a trade would actually look like. Newhook is a top prospect, but in the end he is just a prospect. Mantha is not. Avs know that, and you have to take that into consideration when considering a deal like this. Why would the Avs NOT be willing to part ways with a PROSPECT when they can acquire a piece they feel would allow them the win the Cup NOW?

I won't even touch upon how misinformed you are regarding Mantha and his "injury prone" career. That is all.
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17 mars 2021 à 13 h 21
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Why did I think the salty wings fans dissapeared.
17 mars 2021 à 13 h 21
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There is something you're missing here, and its what 99% of people miss here on this site....context. It's not just about "vAluE"

Avs are in win-now mode. They are a cup contender. Despite what you might think, the rest of the league knows that Mantha is, in fact, a stud and elite winger on a really bad team. If the Avs feel like Mantha is the guy they want, they will be willing to overpay, and this is very similar to what a trade would actually look like. Newhook is a top prospect, but in the end he is just a prospect. Mantha is not. Avs know that, and you have to take that into consideration when considering a deal like this. Why would the Avs NOT be willing to part ways with a PROSPECT when they can acquire a piece they feel would allow them the win the Cup NOW?

I won't even touch upon how misinformed you are regarding Mantha and his "injury prone" career. That is all.


He’s been injured and missed significant time almost every year of his career. That’s what you call injury prone . Stud avs and elite winger you can’t rely on to play even 80% of a season...ok buddy

No win now buzz words are just lazy fan narratives make up yo justify their bad trades.

Bad trades and bad value are still That. Value is value for the player and it’s legit awful in this conversation
17 mars 2021 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: coga16
He’s been injured and missed significant time almost every year of his career. That’s what you call injury prone

No win now buzz words are just lazy fan narratives make up yo justify their bad trades.

Bad trades and bad value are still That. Value is value for the player and it’s legit awful in this conversation


lol okay. I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you.

Just a quick question: Why would TB give up a 1st rounder for Goodrow or Coleman....? Think about it.
17 mars 2021 à 13 h 24
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lol okay. I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you.


Explain how missing 15+ games a season for the majority pf his career isn’t injury prone
17 mars 2021 à 13 h 25
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Explain how missing 15+ games a season for the majority pf his career isn’t injury prone


Newhook hasn't played a single NHL game....not 1.
17 mars 2021 à 13 h 31
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johnson is a dud but so is mantha. lazy player. i would hope both teams say no.
 
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