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Créé par: qwertymann
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 8 mars 2021
Publié: 8 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
After July 15th, LE is only owed 3mil in actual cash while DD is owed 4.5mil in actual cash. DET saves real money while taking on an extra 1mil in cap space for the year.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
22 750 000 $
11 000 000 $
37 500 000 $
37 500 000 $
2950 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 250 000 $
21 500 000 $
13 000 000 $
33 333 333 $
11 750 000 $
23 750 000 $
33 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Podkolzin, Vasili
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
TOR
    2021 TDL for T. Pearson (1.75m retained)
    2.
    VAN
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
    WPG
      2021 TDL for A. Edler (3m retained)
      3.
      VAN
      1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
      OTT
      1. Roussel, Antoine (1 000 000 $ retained)
      2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
      4.
      VAN
        Seattle
        5.
        VAN
        1. DeKeyser, Danny
        Détails additionnels:
        After July 15th, LE is only owed 3mil in actual cash while DD is owed 4.5mil in actual cash. DET saves real money while taking on an extra 1mil in cap space for the year.
        DET
        1. Eriksson, Loui
        2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
        Rachats de contrats
        Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
        Frais appliqués
        Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
        2021
        Logo de VAN
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        Logo de WPG
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        2022
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        Logo de SJS
        2023
        Logo de VAN
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        Logo de VAN
        Logo de VAN
        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        2381 500 000 $80 558 992 $648 780 $200 000 $941 008 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
        AG, AD
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
        1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
        AD, AG
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
        C, AG, AD
        UFA - 2
        3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
        AD, AG
        UFA - 4
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
        C
        UFA - 2
        Podkolzin, Vasili
        925 000 $925 000 $
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
        AD, C
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        825 000 $825 000 $
        AD, C
        UFA - 1
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 6
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
        G
        UFA - 5
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
        DG/DD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
        3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
        DD
        UFA - 4
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
        DD
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
        G
        UFA
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 1
        Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        900 000 $900 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
        AG, AD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        950 000 $950 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 1
        Équipe de réserve
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        811 667 $811 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
        G
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ (1 875 000 $$2M1 875 000 $$2M)
        C
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1

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        8 mars 2021 à 1 h 5
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        Don’t really want edler from a jets perspective. I like him, just think he’s too slow now and doesn’t help as much as I would like if I’m trading a 2nd for him.
        8 mars 2021 à 1 h 8
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        Quoting: arafay
        Don’t really want edler from a jets perspective. I like him, just think he’s too slow now and doesn’t help as much as I would like if I’m trading a 2nd for him.


        Really, eh? Honestly, while true that Edler has slowed down, he is still a legit defender in the NHL. Sheltering his minutes (ie. 16-18 mins/night), he provides real value. Maybe a second is a little high but I feel he really helps out the WPG blueline.
        8 mars 2021 à 1 h 17
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        Quoting: qwertymann
        Really, eh? Honestly, while true that Edler has slowed down, he is still a legit defender in the NHL. Sheltering his minutes (ie. 16-18 mins/night), he provides real value. Maybe a second is a little high but I feel he really helps out the WPG blueline.


        The problem is that we don’t need guys who can play 16-18 sheltered minutes a night. We have plenty of guys for that role. We want a guy who can ply 18-20 mins a night against the other team’s top 6. Someone who can be a stable partner for JoMo or pionk and has some size and can clear the net. Edler doesn’t provide that , you said so yourself.
        8 mars 2021 à 1 h 41
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        Quoting: arafay
        The problem is that we don’t need guys who can play 16-18 sheltered minutes a night. We have plenty of guys for that role. We want a guy who can ply 18-20 mins a night against the other team’s top 6. Someone who can be a stable partner for JoMo or pionk and has some size and can clear the net. Edler doesn’t provide that , you said so yourself.


        Edler can still absorb top minutes and doesn't need to be sheltered if in the right role. His footspeed is slow, but his penalty killing and defensive ability hasn't regressed much. I think he would be fantastic with Pionk or Morrissey.
        8 mars 2021 à 2 h 21
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        Quoting: Wqrrior
        Edler can still absorb top minutes and doesn't need to be sheltered if in the right role. His footspeed is slow, but his penalty killing and defensive ability hasn't regressed much. I think he would be fantastic with Pionk or Morrissey.


        Quoting: qwertymann
        Really, eh? Honestly, while true that Edler has slowed down, he is still a legit defender in the NHL. Sheltering his minutes (ie. 16-18 mins/night), he provides real value. Maybe a second is a little high but I feel he really helps out the WPG blueline.
        Quoting: arafay
        The problem is that we don’t need guys who can play 16-18 sheltered minutes a night. We have plenty of guys for that role. We want a guy who can ply 18-20 mins a night against the other team’s top 6. Someone who can be a stable partner for JoMo or pionk and has some size and can clear the net. Edler doesn’t provide that , you said so yourself.


        Quoting: arafay
        Don’t really want edler from a jets perspective. I like him, just think he’s too slow now and doesn’t help as much as I would like if I’m trading a 2nd for him.


        Edler is still averaging 20mins per game. The only ice time he’s lost over the last two seasons is pp time. 2yrs ago he played 1st pp and ATOI was 24mins (roughly the same as his previous 10 seasons). Last year Hughes took pp1 and Edler dropped to 22 ATOI. This year Schmidt took pp2 and Edler dropped to 20 ATOI. 5on5 and pk minutes are about the same as they have been the majority of his career.

        He would be a great partner for Pionk (RHD) and easily worth a 2nd. That being said I would be shocked if he waived his NMC.
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        8 mars 2021 à 2 h 23
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        Quoting: Mediumyeet
        Edler is still averaging 20mins per game. The only ice time he’s lost over the last two seasons is pp time. 2yrs ago he played 1st pp and ATOI was 24mins (roughly the same as his previous 10 seasons). Last year Hughes took pp1 and Edler dropped to 22 ATOI. This year Schmidt took pp2 and Edler dropped to 20 ATOI. 5on5 and pk minutes are about the same as they have been the majority of his career.

        He would be a great partner for Pionk (RHD) and easily worth a 2nd. That being said I would be shocked if he waived his NMC.


        This is a flawless description of what he is. Well put.
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        8 mars 2021 à 3 h 13
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        Edler has a No-Move-Clause
        8 mars 2021 à 3 h 49
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        So while it make sense money wise to swap DD for Eriksson for our roster we actually need the dman compared to the winger. Hes literally our only ld under contract for next season.
        8 mars 2021 à 8 h 34
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        Edler likely doesn't waive and isn't really a fit for what the Jets need anyway, need a RHD that can play with Morrissey, Forbort has been solid with Pionk.
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        8 mars 2021 à 10 h 14
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        At least right now, the Leaf like Engvall, who can also play centre over Pearson.
        8 mars 2021 à 11 h 10
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        Dekeyser actually has a place and purpose in Detroit. Eriksson would not. No deal.
        8 mars 2021 à 15 h 39
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        Quoting: Mediumyeet
        Edler is still averaging 20mins per game. The only ice time he’s lost over the last two seasons is pp time. 2yrs ago he played 1st pp and ATOI was 24mins (roughly the same as his previous 10 seasons). Last year Hughes took pp1 and Edler dropped to 22 ATOI. This year Schmidt took pp2 and Edler dropped to 20 ATOI. 5on5 and pk minutes are about the same as they have been the majority of his career.

        He would be a great partner for Pionk (RHD) and easily worth a 2nd. That being said I would be shocked if he waived his NMC.


        Quoting: Wqrrior
        This is a flawless description of what he is. Well put.


        You completely missed the point. He’s too slow now imo which results in the 20mins a night he plays not being played at the level the jets need. From what I’ve seen from him, he would only be a marginal upgrade on Forbort (who has been great) next to pionk, which isn’t what we should be paying a 2nd for. It’s that simple. I’m not saying he’s not worth a 2nd, just saying he’s not to the jets.

        Anyways, forbort has been great, it’s more important to get a partner for JoMo first.

        Therefore, for those reasons, edler isn’t a great fit for the jets. Simple
        8 mars 2021 à 15 h 41
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        Quoting: Wqrrior
        Edler can still absorb top minutes and doesn't need to be sheltered if in the right role. His footspeed is slow, but his penalty killing and defensive ability hasn't regressed much. I think he would be fantastic with Pionk or Morrissey.


        I disagree. The jets have already seen what slow d-men does in that top 4. The jets play a fast and mobile game from the backend, edler doesn’t fit that role. I’m not saying we need elite skaters, but edler is well below average at this point.

        I also don’t think he can absorb top mins anymore. I mean, at least 3 or 4 goals the jets scored on the canucks this season have been a direct result of edler being too slow to keep up with the big and fast wingers the jets have. The teams in the west division are all built the same. They are big and fast. Elder isn’t built for the role that the jets woudl need him to play anymore
        8 mars 2021 à 16 h 50
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        Edler is not going to waive that is the issue
        10 mars 2021 à 17 h 4
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        U cant trade Pearson at Deadline and still re-sign him he'd never do it
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        12 mars 2021 à 13 h 35
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        U cant trade Pearson at Deadline and still re-sign him he'd never do it


        Why wouldnt he? He likes playing here. We have seen this happen time and time again
        12 mars 2021 à 22 h 30
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        Quoting: qwertymann
        Why wouldnt he? He likes playing here. We have seen this happen time and time again


        Ur contact I'd sold by one multi-million dollar corporation to another. Now u need a job. I don't think you run back to the first unless you're named Patrick Marleau
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