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Forum: Armchair-GM7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 17

Sujet: 3way Bestway

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Canes don't have room at 8, it needs to be less than 6 for Carolina to be able to do this</div></div>

Would Canes then pay a 1st round pick? Otherwise I think the value is fair

Forum: Armchair-GM7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 17

Sujet: 3way Bestway

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>I don’t think that package does much for SJS.</div></div>

Inclined to agree but I think it gives them an option to turn Myers (if they retain again) into a late 2nd round pick at the TDL and then if Boeser starts scoring again is equal to a 1st or they just keep him and is a legit player for them.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin 2023 à 11 h 29

Sujet: Real Simple

Why buy out Garland? You have the cap space.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin 2023 à 11 h 42

Sujet: Impossible

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>I think there would be openness to a deal like that as long as the core elements are in there. I’m still of the belief that Pesce gets an extension (4x6.5 range) and we ultimately move Skjei instead but we’ll see.</div></div>

This comment section has been one of the most productive and constructive ones Ive been a part of! Cheers you Canes fans, cheers!

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin 2023 à 11 h 36

Sujet: Impossible

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>I think it’s gotta be the first. A second two years away doesn’t have a ton of value. You can keep those prospects and young guys though in that scenario. I get it if it’s too much but think that’s the ask from teams looking for pesce. I’m also assuming a pesce extension as part of this deal.</div></div>

The VAN 1st rounder would be available (as dumb as that is for VAN) but there would have to be draft capital coming back (I would hope).

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin 2023 à 11 h 34

Sujet: Impossible

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>We need guys who will use their bodies to score in dirty areas for playoff success. Boeser has been a perimeter floater from what I’ve seen.</div></div>

He is that, almost exactly. Of the plethora of wingers on VAN, Beauvillier is the most similar to what you're describing.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin 2023 à 11 h 32

Sujet: Impossible

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>I think they’d be potentially interested in both of them but value is off on the deal. Boeser and Garland don’t have much trade value. Retention helps that but still think it’s one of them retained plus a first to make canes think about it.</div></div>

Yea totally fair! What about Garland ($950,000 retained), 2025 2nd Rd pick + Rathbone (or Woo or Dermott or someone in that ballpark of value)?

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin 2023 à 11 h 29

Sujet: Impossible

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warpbox</b></div><div>I think Garland would be more of a fit to CAR then Boeser, however I feel like Carolina would need more.</div></div>

Fair. I would think so too. Just wish VAN had a 2nd rounder before the year 2070 to offer in the deal

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin 2023 à 11 h 25

Sujet: Impossible

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>No interest in that. Boeser isn’t a match for us</div></div>

Carolina needs a Top-6 winger no? Who would be of interest then?

Forum: Armchair-GM12 juin 2023 à 17 h 0

Sujet: Garland trade Myers dump Garvey train

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AK50</b></div><div>Myers PB is only 1 mil. Cap-dumping that is braindead.</div></div>

This didnt make sense

Forum: Armchair-GM6 juin 2023 à 11 h 16

Sujet: Summer 2024

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qwertymann</b></div><div>Oof thats a hard disagree, my man. I'll take a 26 year old ~55 point scorer at league minimum for a 1st rounder all day, everyday.</div></div>

How is it not? You said "If Brock boeser was making the league minimum he still wouldn't be worth a 1st round pick." Im saying I'd pay a 1st round pick for a 26 year-old ~55 point scorer. Therefore, its a "hard disagree, my man."

I think you'd be crazy not to pay that price for that kind of player actually.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 18 h 25

Sujet: Yell at me in the comments section

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>Let's just drop the 2nd from the first trade and drop the retention on Myers (not needed). And call it 11 for 19, Garland, and Myers. That's a steal for Vancouver to unload all that money.</div></div>

The problem is, Garland is a good player so to think of him as just a cap dump isn't right.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 18 h 23

Sujet: Summer 2024

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RedWing9119</b></div><div>If Brock boeser was making <em> the league minimum</em> he still wouldn't be worth a 1st round pick. He has never topped 60 points and has not scored more than 26 goals since his rookie season. Boeser might be worth a 2nd at the trade deadline if he wasn't ridiculously overpaid. At the current rate he's a cap dump. And that's not coming from me; it's coming from your own beat writers.</div></div>

Oof thats a hard disagree, my man. I'll take a 26 year old ~55 point scorer at league minimum for a 1st rounder all day, everyday.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 12 h 54

Sujet: just an idea

Brother, you're paying Bedard 10x too much

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 12 h 21

Sujet: Yell at me in the comments section

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojohawk</b></div><div>If the Hawks and Nucks are doing the first deal, I think it makes sense to tweak the first one a little and just do it all with the same team. Myers even post bonus should cost something because 6 million cap is not a small thing to take. It's not a first or 2nd cause the real salary is only a million and he should be flipable at the TDL, but like a 3rd or 4th which is the tweak of a slightly worst 2nd.</div></div>

Again, in this proposal, VAN is retaining 1m. So its only 5m in cap hit and 833k in actual Salary. This helps ARI/ANA/CHI too. If CHI doesn't do, it someone will. Myers isnt this immovable anchor that people think he is. If VAN is retaining on him, they do NOT need to pay someone to take him. The team that eventually acquires Myers will be doing that.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 12 h 3

Sujet: Yell at me in the comments section

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojohawk</b></div><div>I thought you might be trying to say that, but wasn't sure. So we are then debating if the 2nd is the Tampa or NYR 2nd.....in other words not all that far off.</div></div>

Also, that CHI doesnt need to be the team that the Myers trade happens with. Any of ARI/ANA/CHI would be good candidates for it.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 11 h 59

Sujet: Summer 2024

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>We got no 1sts to give. Keep in mind this is for 2024-25 season, so would be pending UFA.</div></div>

I understand, Im not necessarily saying the NJD is a fit but just that that's his value as I see it.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 11 h 56

Sujet: Yell at me in the comments section

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojohawk</b></div><div>I think the deal is combining both and dropping the 2nd to NYR 2nd for the Hawks to take the Meyers caphit after his bonus is paid. So #11, Garland, and a player to be named later (which is Myers after his bonus is paid) for #19, & #56. Hawks get a winger with some skill to play in their top 6, flip 2 picks into a better one, and have Myers they can rehab and retain on for a TDL flip. Nucks free up 10 million in cap (so they can actually add a significant piece in UFA or trade), move down 8 but still staying in the 1st and pick up a 2nd they don't have.</div></div>

This is essentially the impetus, yes.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 11 h 52

Sujet: Yell at me in the comments section

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Yeah, but it's still doing Vancouver a favor</div></div>

I mean CHI/ARI/ANA benefit too, its a win-win situation. That's usually how trades work. The team that needs to spend more cap to get to the floor is achieving that and also acquiring an asset (in exchange for Myers). Like Tyler Myers at 2.5m is something teams would pay for. He is a solid defender just not a $6m one.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 11 h 41

Sujet: Yell at me in the comments section

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>The first trade makes sense, however, obviously Chicago isn't going to take Myers for free.</div></div>

The only problem with Myers is the contract right? Like the dude is still a #4/5 dman. If his caphit was something in the $3-4m range he would actually get an asset back. So for a team like CHI or ARI or ANA they're acquiring someone that they can get real value for if they retain again. All in all, the team acquiring Myers here would actually be adding a caphit of 2.5m to their books for whatever they get for him (2nd/3rd round pick).

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 11 h 28

Sujet: Summer 2024

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Alright, no worries. Maybe less retention and more futures oriented return. Get ‘em some meaningful savings.</div></div>

If you take the contract out of the equation for a second, Brock is worth a late 1st round pick (55pts in a bad year isn't bad at all). Adding in the contract, it downgrades the value but not to the level of a 3rd line center. If VAN retains on Brock then the value is back to a late 1st round pick. If VAN retain HALF then the value is higher than a late 1st. Thats how I see it anyways.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 10 h 52

Sujet: Summer 2024

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>It saves them $3.325m. And they could use that money towards signing Yegor to be their new 3C.</div></div>

Exactly, so it doesnt save VAN any money. How much does it cost to sign Yegor? ~3m? So VAN is paying the same money now for a downgraded player.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 mai 2023 à 15 h 50

Sujet: Think This is The Only Way

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Gavrikov is resigning with LA.

Compher gets more money and term.

Zero chance you're getting a 2nd for Garland, It's already been reported league wide. That GMs won't touch Garland without sweeteners being attached to him.</div></div>

LAK is pushing hard to resign, doesnt mean its a guarantee. Compher getting more money is too rich for the player that he actually is. Garland fetches a 2nd, save the tweet.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 mai 2023 à 15 h 49

Sujet: Think This is The Only Way

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stars4Life</b></div><div>this team kinda just got downgraded</div></div>

Elaborate

Forum: Armchair-GM6 avr. 2023 à 10 h 57

Sujet: hope

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Context? GSAx is the definition of context. It takes the quality of every shot that a goalie faces compared to the expected value (percent chance it scores on a league average goalie's expected chance of making that save). This isnt save percentage or GSAx my guy</div></div>

You're right, I forgot that GSAx take the goalie's health and mobility into account. My apologies, I concede my point.

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