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Armchair-GM
il y a 5 heures
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How Tampa Fans Think
What an overpay for Letang
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NHL Signings
il y a 9 heures
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Dallas Stars signed Joseph Cecconi (1 Year / $750,000 AAV)
Cool
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Armchair-GM
sam. à 15 h 10
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The Lambo and The Prius
Dont think Trocheck wants to play with Marchand
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Mock-Draft
jeu. à 11 h 58
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What Buff Needs
Korchinksi doesn’t fall thay hard
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Armchair-GM
20 juin à 16 h 38
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Caps fans what do you think
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Schenn is the perfect comp IMO, Hayes was an overpayment the day it was signed, and Horvat isn't as good defensively as Couturier</div></div>
Im not going to deny I havent watched nearly enough of Couturier to know how good he is defensively, and I'm not going to rely on Corsi stats, but... Horvat is one of the Canucks best 5 on 5 defensive players. He isn't flashy like Garland, he doesn't embarrass players like Motte did, he doesn't even regularly kill penalties. But his awareness and his skill it blokving passing lanes is underrated crazily. Yes it's unfortunate the Canucks don't have a true shutdown center ( Every time we try it goes terrible. Beagle, Sutter, Dickinson. Gaudette couldn't spell 'defending'). I thought Couturier was slightly overpaid, despite two 70+ point seasons, but had no idea he was that good. Either way good lock for the Flyers if he keeps producing atleast 50 points a year.
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Armchair-GM
20 juin à 14 h 54
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Caps fans what do you think
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mediumyeet</b></div><div>It'll be interesting to see what happens. His 31 goals in 70 games this year changed the narrative a bit. Media speculation on his most recent comparable to sign is Hertl who just signed $8.1x8. Other comparables are Schenn 6.5x8, Hayes 7.15x7, Couturier 7.75x8. I personally think he should be more in the Schenn range than the couturier and hertl range but fact of the matter is if he has another 30 goal season next year and goes to the open market someone would probably give him that 7.5 - 8 mil range.</div></div>
Schenn range is reasonable. Id watch for Trochek this year as a comparable
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NHL Signings
20 juin à 14 h 51
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Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (1 Year / $1,800,000 AAV)
Lil Kuzy Vert
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Fauteuil - DG
20 juin à 11 h 59
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DeBrincat et Dach
Je pense que Chicago dit "non". Vous enlevez Anderson et Kidney, et ajoutez Dvorak avec 50% retention
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Armchair-GM
20 juin à 11 h 49
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Leafs want Bobrovsky
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_need_Scoring</b></div><div>If you want Florida, a team whose looking to win now, to retain 5mil for 4 years, Thats going to be the price.</div></div>
I think leafs pass. Bobrovsky is a dump. You could find a better UFA goalie in 3M, saving you 2M after retaining
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Armchair-GM
20 juin à 11 h 45
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Leafs want Bobrovsky
Leafs arent gonna trade their 1st rounder if Bobrovsky is the only return
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Armchair-GM
20 juin à 11 h 36
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Bobrovsky dump to Toronto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>odyssey</b></div><div>i think a three way trade.
florida gets mrazek, gets rid of bob
leafs get bob, lose a third and prospect
arizona gets a third and a prospect, and eat 50% of Bobs salary</div></div>
Florida would have to pay more, I dont think Toronto does that. The prospect would have to come from Florida
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Armchair-GM
20 juin à 11 h 35
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Caps fans what do you think
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mediumyeet</b></div><div>K but I want to move Horvat not Miller here so let's leave Miller out of it.
Personally I think it's stupid for the Canucks to trade Miller instead of Horvat unless Horvat signs for 6.5mil or less but rumour has it the Horvat comparables are in the 7.5 - 8 mil range.
Miller is not replaceable. Horvat is. Until one of them signs an extension anything is possible and we should not be making a 50-65 pt player "untouchable" regardless of whether he's our captain or not.</div></div>
Horvat doesn’t get 8. But yes, if negotiations are going that badly then you could trade him. I think Horvat might get an 8 year deal worth just over 6M
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Armchair-GM
19 juin à 14 h 34
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Caps fans what do you think
Remove Horvat and the 4th for Miller. Better trade for both teams. Maybe Washington adds a prospect like Lemay or maybe a 3rdish round pick
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Armchair-GM
19 juin à 1 h 4
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Stupidest Miller trade I could think off
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Riley816</b></div><div>Any chance Van actually tries to extend Miller??</div></div>
I hope not. Rutherford hasn't ruled it out, even called it a priority at one point, but the man's probably bluffing.
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Armchair-GM
19 juin à 1 h 1
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Sens CUP
Ah yes, I remember remember Anisimov. Makes me think of how long I've been cripplingly addicted to this site
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Armchair-GM
14 juin à 9 h 58
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>Likewise, kovalchuks contract wasn’t radically different than the other fronts loaded deals. It just took a step in the direction of clear cap circumvention. This does the same.</div></div>
Fair enough
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Armchair-GM
14 juin à 0 h 29
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>Why?</div></div>
as noted by dannibalcorpse, its not radically different from other commonly accepted legal moves, such as double retention. Although I respect the opinion that it would be blocked. A fun thought though
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Armchair-GM
13 juin à 22 h 12
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>Kovalchuk’s contract wasn’t against the rules. They stopped it. It’s a no brainer. 100% blocked by the league.</div></div>
I agree. This seems, to some at least, myself included, less of a no-brainer
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Armchair-GM
13 juin à 19 h 59
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Bear is a 25 year old RD, thank you very much</div></div>
As a canes fan what would you be willing to add?
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Armchair-GM
13 juin à 19 h 58
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>They don’t have to make an argument. They didn’t with the kovalchuk situation. Just cap circumvention. Its a blanket term.</div></div>
I see what you are saying, but the view is subjective. What counts as circumvention and where the line of intervention needed is an opinion. I would imagine it would stir controversy and media might get mad, but if it's not against the rules, its tough to justify. Kovalchuk's contract demonstrated the lack of rules on contract length. I would imagine that if this did get shut down, they'd make an update to the CBA. Then, I claim credit
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Armchair-GM
13 juin à 19 h 54
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newballcoach</b></div><div>The NHLPA would **** a brick if they did that. Definitely cap circumvention (in this case, the floor) and they would lose their minds. Not a good scene.
I suppose what's "legal" and what's going to be allowed is a fair question. I don't think the NHL is going to encourage this to happen, and I would think they would void the contract. There could definitely be a fight about it, but short of Arizona and Carolina threatening legal action, that's probably what would happen. It's clearly cap circumvention and not in the spirit of the rules. I think they've lived with a third team retaining salary on deadline trades, but I don't see them opening up this slippery slope. The next step would be trading a player to another team, having them retain salary and then trading him back. That's not a box they want to open IMO.</div></div>
Yeah, lol, the 10 million 2 way deal was the byproduct of my head not sleeping but attending stats class
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Armchair-GM
13 juin à 19 h 53
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>As someone else said, the Kovalchuk thing was just too blatant for the league to *not* let it go. A 27 year old signing a 17 year deal that just so happened to have 96.5% of the salary paid in the first 11 years, with miniscule cap hits for the last 6 (one at $750K and then 5 at $550K!)? Just too egregious.
This is less so - how is this much different than a team signing a pending free agent to an 8 year deal and moving him out to a team that would give them an asset for that extra year/lower AAV the extra year would bring? It's the signing team using one of the advantages given to them by the CBA in trading one of their players for the maximum possible return. Like I said upthread, I think if the NHL tried to knock this down there would be an immediate challenge back from the teams involved - meaning the league would either have to take this to court (incredibly unlikely) or they'd have to re-open the CBA to address this - and re-opening would require consent from the NHLPA, and any good union boss would make SURE to extract a concession from the league for doing them the favor.
For those last two points alone, I feel pretty confident the league would suck it up and let it ride, and potentially address it in the next round of CBA talks. I can't see it becoming that incredibly common - you've only got a handful of cap floor teams, and there's a limit to how many retained contracts they can have at one time, so at most you're probably looking at what, 5-6 instances of this happening?</div></div>
This is basically what I was thinking
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Armchair-GM
13 juin à 10 h 13
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>yes they are legal but I bet that trade would be disallowed by the NHL for cap circumvention. Unless it was Tampa that is.</div></div>
Tampa would get it double retained
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Armchair-GM
13 juin à 10 h 12
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newballcoach</b></div><div>The NHL has been pretty strict on salary cap circumvention stuff, so while I don't think it's illegal I'm not sure the league would be very happy about it. I have to imagine there would be 31 other GM's fighting against this move. The fact that it hasn't been done yet tells me it probably can't be. In the NBA it's more about matching cap space for a player than it is straight manipulation.
Arizona is trying to cut costs. While this would get them assets, it's also an expensive move for them. If you structured the contract with low salary and high bonuses, they might be willing. But also that might make the league less likely to accept it, so I don't know. Interesting thought experiment.</div></div>
Yeah, I thought of that. TBH Arizona can solve this problem quite easily. Sign some random AHL player to a two way contract, with a 10 million dollar caphit at the nhl level qnd a 200 thousand dollar caphit in the AHL. Immediately send him down. The cap hit would be 10 million minus buried penalty, allowing them to reach cap floor
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Armchair-GM
13 juin à 10 h 8
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Are sign-and-trades legal in the NHL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>never saw anything saying otherrwise in the CBA, but its quite ridiculous so i dont think they would happen.</div></div>
Ridicousness is a small price to pay for... exiting the 2nd round for like 3 years straight
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