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Duchene where are you

Date de création initiale: fév 25, 2021
Publié: 25 fév à 15 h 23
Équipe: 2021-22 Predators de Nashville
Explications
I said this 3 years ago. Matt Duchesne won't win. Doesn't matter where he is.
Now that he's paid, it's not a surprise the Preds playing so poorly.
I don't think Poile wants to keep a guy like this around.
Transactions
NSH
  1. Zibanejad, Mika
  2. Deangelo, Anthony
  3. 2021 1e round pick (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Is this too heavy?
NYR
  1. Duchene, Matt
Rachats de contrats
  • Kyle Turris: 2 000 000 $
  • Steven Santini: 275 000 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
NSH
NYR
NSH
NSH
NSH
COL
NSH
NSH
2022
NSH
NSH
NSH
NSH
NSH
NSH
2023
NSH
NSH
NSH
NSH
NSH
NSH
NSH
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1681 500 000 $65 116 143 $0 $0 $16 383 857 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NSH
Forsberg, Filip
6 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
NSH
Johansen, Ryan
8 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
NSH
Arvidsson, Viktor
4 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
NSH
Grimaldi, Rocco
2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
NSH
Trenin, Yakov
725 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
NSH
Sissons, Colton
2 857 143 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
NSH
Järnkrok, Calle
2 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NSH
Kunin, Luke
2 300 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
NSH
Cousins, Nick
1 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NSH
Josi, Roman
9 059 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
NSH
Ellis, Ryan
6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
NSH
Borowiecki, Mark
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
NSH
Benning, Matthew
1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
4 800 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
1 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NSH
Ekholm, Mattias
3 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
NSH
Carrier, Alexandre
733 333 $ (0 $)
DD
RFA - 2

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25 fév à 15 h 34
#1
imawesome
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That is possibly the worst trade I've ever seen
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25 fév à 15 h 40
#2
Go Preds
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Is Mika coming with an extension that pays him like a 50 pt player or 75 pt player? If it's in the $5-6.5M range, I'd be interested for 3-4 years. Not to mention the DeAngelo risk. I'd probably say no deal, but it's definitely interesting.
25 fév à 15 h 42
#3
Banni
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He's in Nashville loving life.
25 fév à 15 h 42
#4
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Quoting: ZPirtle
Is Mika coming with an extension that pays him like a 50 pt player or 75 pt player? If it's in the $5-6.5M range, I'd be interested for 3-4 years. Not to mention the DeAngelo risk. I'd probably say no deal, but it's definitely interesting.


No, thats the point of the trade. No extension.
Gives Nashville am opportunity to play it out. Thus the other two pieces.

Quoting: imawesome
That is possibly the worst trade I've ever seen


ok buddy...
25 fév à 15 h 43
#5
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
He's in Nashville loving life.


Yea and it shows on the ice. He doesn't care about winning
25 fév à 15 h 43
#6
Banni
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You talk crap about Duchene* in the bio then trade Zibanejad, Deangelo, and a 1st for him? Please explain.
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25 fév à 15 h 44
#7
Banni
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
Yea and it shows on the ice. He doesn't care about winning


Or they just have one of the worst coaches in the league, but yeah go ahead and go with option 1...
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25 fév à 15 h 47
#8
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Or they just have one of the worst coaches in the league, but yeah go ahead and go with option 1...


NSH was already broken before Duchene showed up.
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25 fév à 15 h 54
#9
Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
No, thats the point of the trade. No extension.
Gives Nashville am opportunity to play it out. Thus the other two pieces.



ok buddy...


You actually must be joking with this trade, duchene is trash and is wayyy overpaid, Zib even this season is a better player than him, I’m not even sure I’d do trouba for him
25 fév à 15 h 55
#10
Formerly Jamiepo
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Waaayyyy too much for Duchene....
25 fév à 16 h 13
#11
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You trash Duchene then get an absolute haul for him. Come on dude. At least you didn't try to pry Vesey from the leafs
25 fév à 16 h 24
#12
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Quoting: LGR
You trash Duchene then get an absolute haul for him. Come on dude. At least you didn't try to pry Vesey from the leafs


Quoting: Jamiepo
Waaayyyy too much for Duchene....


Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
You actually must be joking with this trade, duchene is trash and is wayyy overpaid, Zib even this season is a better player than him, I’m not even sure I’d do trouba for him


I think you guys really overlooked a lot here. First, Zib is upcoming UFA, no guarantee Nash can even hold on to him,
2nd, De Angelo is negative value right now. He cleared waivers, Rangers need to find a way to lose his cap hit...
Is Duchene overpaid? Yep, funny though there are people on this board who think not...that tells me I have something here.
25 fév à 16 h 47
#13
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Zibanejad feels like a guy NYR would like to keep around. Particularly with most of their top prospects/young players being wingers and defensemen
(other than Chytil) . I dont see them trading him off for a guy like duchene... if they do trade Z, i would imagine they would want to base it around a younger player.
25 fév à 16 h 57
#14
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I mean Duchene for Trouba could possibly work. That's probably the best you'll get from NYR... And tbh he's been better than Duchene this year.
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25 fév à 17 h 08
#15
Formerly Jamiepo
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
I think you guys really overlooked a lot here. First, Zib is upcoming UFA, no guarantee Nash can even hold on to him,
2nd, De Angelo is negative value right now. He cleared waivers, Rangers need to find a way to lose his cap hit...
Is Duchene overpaid? Yep, funny though there are people on this board who think not...that tells me I have something here.


Duchene is a cap dump, negative value.
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25 fév à 17 h 36
#16
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
I think you guys really overlooked a lot here. First, Zib is upcoming UFA, no guarantee Nash can even hold on to him,
2nd, De Angelo is negative value right now. He cleared waivers, Rangers need to find a way to lose his cap hit...
Is Duchene overpaid? Yep, funny though there are people on this board who think not...that tells me I have something here.


Duchene is F'n brutal.... Zibby is better 1 for 1 and we wouldn't trade ADA, he's a buy out. Why would we try to downgrade our C? Term? we will just resign Zib at less than Duchene. This being said I could see the potential for a ADA and Strome for Duch to bail NSH from this deal and minor upgrade our 2C. Oh and the pick you had there would be on the other side. I know some don't realize it so I'll just put the numbers below

Zibby and Buyout for ADA will cost us 5.35M and 900K. total of 6.25M (Keeping the better C)

Duchene will cost 8M (Downgrading our C)
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25 fév à 19 h 08
#17
LafnDoubleADoubleK
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People don't get the meaning of N M C
25 fév à 22 h 31
#18
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: DoubleADoubleK
People don't get the meaning of N M C


don't be silly. of course we get it...does that mean the 30+ players with full NMC can't be traded on AGM?...it's about opening up ideas.
have a happy drink
 
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