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TB Has 2 Shed 11 Million

Créé par: BootBoi
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 25 déc. 2020
Publié: 25 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Is TB at the mercy of the other 30 teams?
$11 million is 3 contracts 4 sure.
Who can be traded?
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $92 454 166 $0 $0 $-10 954 166 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 4
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
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UFA - 4
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
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UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
AD, AG
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UFA - 3
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
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UFA - 5
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
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UFA - 3
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737 500 $737 500 $
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UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
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UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
DG
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UFA - 6
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
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UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
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25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 39
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If Kuch can go to LTIR, does that change the cap hit?
25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 40
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Kucherov goes to long-term injury reserve Free’s up 9 1/2 mill you set the practice squad or taxi squad or whatever you wanna call it and boom you’re done you’re about 150 200,000 below cap
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25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 41
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Kucherov to LTIR makes it just 1.4 to clear off.... Goodrow and COleman could go and be replaced with league minimum or ELCs
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25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 42
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Nope Kucherov's $9.5 mil comes off just trade Cederic Paquette for a 7 or future considerations done.
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25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 43
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Kucherov to LTIR makes it just 1.4 to clear off.... Goodrow and COleman could go and be replaced with league minimum or ELCs

Paquette Coburn taxi squad maybe Johnson
25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 49
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They can move Kuch to LTIR, making it so they only have to clear 1 contract.
25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 50
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If Kuch can go to LTIR, does that change the cap hit?


Yes his cap will be exempt as long as he is on LTIR but the moment he is healthy he will count again so they have to clear space in advance of that. As it is now, they can run a 20 man roster and be compliant but any minor injury and they are below 20 people because to bring a guy off the taxi squad you need space for him. And they have none, guys on IR still count against the cap. So anything minor and they have no space to fill the spot.
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25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 52
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Yes his cap will be exempt as long as he is on LTIR but the moment he is healthy he will count again so they have to clear space in advance of that. As it is now, they can run a 20 man roster and be compliant but any minor injury and they are below 20 people because to bring a guy off the taxi squad you need space for him. And they have none, guys on IR still count against the cap. So anything minor and they have no space to fill the spot.


They are saying he won't be healthy until playoffs and as we all know, there's no salary cap in the playoff so the cap won't be an issue.
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25 déc. 2020 à 10 h 56
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You forgot to move him to LTIR instead of regular IR
25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 0
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Quoting: Bolts20Cup
Kucherov goes to long-term injury reserve Free’s up 9 1/2 mill you set the practice squad or taxi squad or whatever you wanna call it and boom you’re done you’re about 150 200,000 below cap


But any minor injury and you can't even call someone up from the taxi squad. Like if a player gets sick they will not dress and you have no space to call up a replacement from the taxi squad. And you can't use LTiR unless there is a reasonable assumption he will miss 10 games. So let's say Killorn gets the flu, you need to sit him but since you only have 150k in space you can't afford a replacement and you have to play with 19 players. Tampa still needs a good amount of space
25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 0
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Quoting: Bolts20Cup
Paquette Coburn taxi squad maybe Johnson


Taxi squad requires waivers to go back and forth...
25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 1
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They are saying he won't be healthy until playoffs and as we all know, there's no salary cap in the playoff so the cap won't be an issue.


And if he heals faster? You can't artificial hold a guy out.
25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 5
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And if he heals faster? You can't artificial hold a guy out.


Surgery is normally something that you can say how long it happens and how long the player stays away.
25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 6
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And if he heals faster? You can't artificial hold a guy out.


Typically when they give a timeline, it's pretty spot on. Same thing happened when Kane broke his collarbone in 2015, they loaded up at the deadline, he came back for game 1 of the playoffs, and the hawks won it all.
25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 9
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Paquette Coburn taxi squad maybe Johnson


Johnson's too good to be on the taxi squad especially with Kucherov injured
25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 11
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And if he heals faster? You can't artificial hold a guy out.

The most you can hold a guy out is probably 2 weeks max for a conditioning stint but other than that it’s pretty strict in the CBA. The NHL can question the validity of injury/recovery and have an independent doctor do an assessment to confirm per the CBA.
25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 14
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Johnson's too good to be on the taxi squad especially with Kucherov injured


Johnson already passed through waivers so he's technically already on the taxi squad. Probably wont stay there though
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25 déc. 2020 à 11 h 16
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Kuchervov 9.5m LTIR saves Tampa for now. Killorn certainly is tradable (to limited number of needed) if needed. The easiest trades that saves cap though Tampa doesn't want to it are Sergachev, Cirelli and Cernak
25 déc. 2020 à 17 h 59
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Surgery is normally something that you can say how long it happens and how long the player stays away.


Usually yup but as he nears being cleared it will be easy to see if the team is purposely keeping him out of the lineup just to circumvent the cap. It's like when Robidas and Lupal were both on LTIR people accused the Leafs of just saying they were injured to save cap. The players have to have medical evaluations proving it.
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25 déc. 2020 à 18 h 1
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The most you can hold a guy out is probably 2 weeks max for a conditioning stint but other than that it’s pretty strict in the CBA. The NHL can question the validity of injury/recovery and have an independent doctor do an assessment to confirm per the CBA.


Exactly so Tampa likely needs to clear cap to ensure they can be compliant and if they don't do it by the trade deadline they will have to pay an even bigger price (players can be traded after the deadline but won't be able to suit up for their new team until the next season)
25 déc. 2020 à 19 h 23
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Quoting: Sean4417
Taxi squad requires waivers to go back and forth...


So claim Paquette Coburn or Johnson free the cap space
25 déc. 2020 à 19 h 25
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The same surgery for point was 4 months
Gourde was around 3 1/2
Both had the same surgeon performing the same surgery
25 déc. 2020 à 19 h 37
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And if he heals faster? You can't artificial hold a guy out.

Hey I don’t know my hip just doesn’t feel right hard to prove it doesn’t
25 déc. 2020 à 20 h 51
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Hey I don’t know my hip just doesn’t feel right hard to prove it doesn’t


Science bro
25 déc. 2020 à 20 h 52
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Science bro


Have you ever had a joint surgery? Soft tissue around the injury really hard to disprove
 
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