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Jetmans trade proposal TBL Perspective

Créé par: Hedman77
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 29 oct. 2020
Publié: 29 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
34 333 333 $
Transactions
1.
TBL
  1. Niku, Sami [Droits de RFA]
  2. Pionk, Neal
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Cernak, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Sergachev, Mikhail [Droits de RFA]
2.
TBL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
3.
TBL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NYI)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 121 757 $0 $500 000 $1 378 243 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 4
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4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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759 258 $759 258 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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737 500 $737 500 $
C
UFA - 2

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29 oct. 2020 à 18 h 49
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Niku would make less than 900K imo...but that's a small point...
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29 oct. 2020 à 18 h 50
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Think WPG would have to add.
29 oct. 2020 à 18 h 50
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The Islanders are not trading for Killorn
29 oct. 2020 à 18 h 53
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I like the trade but just not sure how Calgary is expected to take on $5M in cap?
29 oct. 2020 à 18 h 55
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Islanders can't even afford Killorn, And fat chance of Brisebois trading Sergachev if he deals both Killorn and Johnson. Tampa has nearly $3 million in cap space dealing both Killorn and Johnson gives them $9.5 mil so close to $12.5 mil in cap space way more then enough to bridge Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev. Plus Coburn and Paquette can be moved for mere pennies.
29 oct. 2020 à 19 h 2
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Here’s my take on this: that’s a bad deal for Tampa.
Tampa should do something like this : (1 move that solves all their issues)

Cirelli or Sergachev + Johnson for an NHL ready top6/top4 ELC guy and a 2nd round pick.
29 oct. 2020 à 19 h 17
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I would think Pionk is more or less equal value and cap hit to Cernak no? So it’s basically Niku 2nd 2nd for Serg
29 oct. 2020 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: csick
Here’s my take on this: that’s a bad deal for Tampa.
Tampa should do something like this : (1 move that solves all their issues)

Cirelli or Sergachev + Johnson for an NHL ready top6/top4 ELC guy and a 2nd round pick.


So for example to OTT:

Cirelli and Johnson for

Norris and a 2nd

Something like that?
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29 oct. 2020 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: csick
Here’s my take on this: that’s a bad deal for Tampa.
Tampa should do something like this : (1 move that solves all their issues)

Cirelli or Sergachev + Johnson for an NHL ready top6/top4 ELC guy and a 2nd round pick.


Hm like Foudy?
29 oct. 2020 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: Boggsauce
So for example to OTT:

Cirelli and Johnson for

Norris and a 2nd

Something like that?


I think we need Norris so someone else of that level. But that type of trade yes.
29 oct. 2020 à 19 h 25
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Quoting: csick
I think we need Norris so someone else of that level. But that type of trade yes.


Okay cool. You don’t think Cirelli would fill that need? You could have

Tkachuk-Cirelli-Dadonov
Tierney-Johnson-White

Swap out Brown or Galchenyuk and I think you have a pretty young and competent top 6
29 oct. 2020 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: Boggsauce
Okay cool. You don’t think Cirelli would fill that need? You could have

Tkachuk-Cirelli-Dadonov
Tierney-Johnson-White

Swap out Brown or Galchenyuk and I think you have a pretty young and competent top 6


Tkachuk-Cirelli-Dadonov
Johnson-Norris-Batherson
Stutzle-Tierney-C.Brown
Galchenyuk-Anisimov-Watson
Paul
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29 oct. 2020 à 19 h 52
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Islanders can't even afford Killorn, And fat chance of Brisebois trading Sergachev if he deals both Killorn and Johnson. Tampa has nearly $3 million in cap space dealing both Killorn and Johnson gives them $9.5 mil so close to $12.5 mil in cap space way more then enough to bridge Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev. Plus Coburn and Paquette can be moved for mere pennies.


It's this piece that is devoid of reality.
"Plus Coburn and Paquette can be moved for mere pennies."
who is going to take them?
Paquette is a 4th liner and a dime a dozen. No team needs to trade for a 1.6 million 4th liner.
Coburn is gonna be 36 years old. I don't see many takers there. If anything they don't help, and take one of tb young defense.
The other obvious problem here is, TB is still not the only team looking to dump cap. No one else is fairing any better with better offers.

Quoting: csick
Here’s my take on this: that’s a bad deal for Tampa.
Tampa should do something like this : (1 move that solves all their issues)

Cirelli or Sergachev + Johnson for an NHL ready top6/top4 ELC guy and a 2nd round pick.


No one is going to take that deal.
First you are taking on like 10 million salary. Who has that? Like maybe 5 teams right now?
Most of them, if not all, are rebuilding so they aren't going to give up a young player.
29 oct. 2020 à 20 h 13
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Quoting: csick
Tkachuk-Cirelli-Dadonov
Johnson-Norris-Batherson
Stutzle-Tierney-C.Brown
Galchenyuk-Anisimov-Watson
Paul


Who does Ottawa trade out in that scenario? A dman?
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29 oct. 2020 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: Boggsauce
Who does Ottawa trade out in that scenario? A dman?


It would have to be a D. Lassi Thomson and/or Logan Brown are the ones I’d look to move way before Norris and Brannstrom
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29 oct. 2020 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Boggsauce
I would think Pionk is more or less equal value and cap hit to Cernak no? So it’s basically Niku 2nd 2nd for Serg


Pionk is worth Serg...Cernak is a big defensive Dman... doesn't have as much value as a offensive Dman...so Niku and 2 2nds....but TBL get cap relief
30 oct. 2020 à 7 h 53
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It will take way more to get rid of johnson and Killron won't get traded to the isles since they also have their own cap issues
30 oct. 2020 à 15 h 11
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What would it cost for Winnipeg to get just Sergachev?
14 nov. 2020 à 12 h 13
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Quoting: Jetman
Pionk is worth Serg...Cernak is a big defensive Dman... doesn't have as much value as a offensive Dman...so Niku and 2 2nds....but TBL get cap relief


First of all, after reading 5 pages of TB trades, this is the most original one by a mile. Congrats on actually trying a hockey deal and not just capdumps.

But Pionk isnt worth Serg, because he is one year away from UFA and Serg is under team's control for another 5 years. Way higher ceiling too.

Jets would need to add big value.
14 nov. 2020 à 12 h 24
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Quoting: jpsnow13
First of all, after reading 5 pages of TB trades, this is the most original one by a mile. Congrats on actually trying a hockey deal and not just capdumps.

But Pionk isnt worth Serg, because he is one year away from UFA and Serg is under team's control for another 5 years. Way higher ceiling too.

Jets would need to add big value.


Pionk is a RFA...
14 nov. 2020 à 16 h 18
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: Jetman
Pionk is a RFA...


You are right, since his birthday is July 29th.

But it doesn't change my point: 5 years of Serg > 2 years of Pionk
 
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