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Nylander plus to ANA for Manson plus 6oa

Créé par: Leafs4life34
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 1 oct. 2020
Publié: 1 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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Schneider, Braden
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Quinn, Jack
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  1. Manson, Josh
  2. Steel, Sam
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
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    Jack Quinn (future 40 goal scorer)
    Braden Schneider (future Jake Muzzin)
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    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
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    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 21
    #1
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    Lol no. Just drop the fluff and the 6th overall.

    Think the max ANA would offer is Manson+Steel+BOS 1st for Nylander. More than that and it's just not worth it.
    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 21
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    Modifié 1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 30
    Nylander Is good, but that is just too much lol. By the way there would be better options at 6 then Quinn lol. Drysdale, Rossi, Sanderson, Perfetti, Raymond, Holtz, Lundell, are all better
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    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 22
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    If you remove BOS’s first and Steel it still wouldn’t go through...
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    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 24
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    dont think you realize how good Steel is gonna be
    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 25
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    Nylander and 15 for Jones, Manson and 6. Maybe even no Jones
    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 33
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    Quinn future 40 goal scorer? I need to find out where all these cap friendly users get their crystal balls.
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    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 36
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    Quoting: Snowden89
    dont think you realize how good Steel is gonna be


    More crystal balls... maybe steel should already be good? His elc is almost up.
    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 48
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    Being wrong is ok
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    Modifié 1 oct. 2020 à 22 h 49
    Quoting: Jamiepo
    More crystal balls... maybe steel should already be good? His elc is almost up.


    Yea after one bad year this is the common analysis. For a 30th overall pick this is the evolution I expect even with the lackluster season. A real short sighted take here imo. But it is fair.

    As for the post its just another one going into my leafs file.
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    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 55
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    After seeing these for the millionth time, I’m gonna say this in the most polite way possible.

    Get lost
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    1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 57
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    Quoting: csick
    Nylander and 15 for Jones, Manson and 6. Maybe even no Jones


    We'll include Jones.
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    1 oct. 2020 à 22 h 3
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    Quoting: BuckoJoyde
    Yea after one bad year this the common analysis. For a 30th overall pick this is the evolution I expect even with the lackluster season. A real short sighted take here imo. But it is fair.

    As for the post its just another one going into my leafs file.


    Just my take on everyone mowing the future. My point wasn’t that steel was a poor player but at 22 with two seasons under his belt and time given to develop you really should consider him good already. Development is usually a curve. Not a jagged skyrocketing line across a chart. I would expect steel to get better as he moves from here to his prime.

    The trade proposed is more than fair. But does it make sense for either side? Not at all. Leafs fans rarely stop to consider what motivates the other side. They also love to destroy our window of playoff success.

    I see dozens of Laine trades with ridiculous returns. Yet nylander is expected to go for scraps in comparison.
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    1 oct. 2020 à 22 h 10
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    Quoting: bunzy1034
    Nylander Is good, but that is just too much lol. By the way there would be better options at 6 then Quinn lol. Drysdale, Rossi, Sanderson, Perfetti, Raymond, Holtz, Lundell, are all better


    And you'll be lucky if any of those picks equal what Nylander is. I really just want all this crap to end.
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    1 oct. 2020 à 22 h 13
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    Just my take on everyone mowing the future. My point wasn’t that steel was a poor player but at 22 with two seasons under his belt and time given to develop you really should consider him good already. Development is usually a curve. Not a jagged skyrocketing line across a chart. I would expect steel to get better as he moves from here to his prime.

    The trade proposed is more than fair. But does it make sense for either side? Not at all. Leafs fans rarely stop to consider what motivates the other side. They also love to destroy our window of playoff success.

    I see dozens of Laine trades with ridiculous returns. Yet nylander is expected to go for scraps in comparison.


    Oh I agree. This is just a bad post to begin with all due respect to OP. Nylander would be our best forward if he's on the squad. Steel is going to be a middle six guy is whole career imo. I just was inferring like similar players his age he needs the system to grow and the ducks are like the the mid 2010 leafs with no strong identity to promote said growth.

    But yea I agree with everything you said here. I apologize for assuming you had different take then ya did.
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    1 oct. 2020 à 22 h 29
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    Quoting: csick
    Nylander and 15 for Jones, Manson and 6. Maybe even no Jones

    Toronto doesn’t even consider that

    The trade posted (and I am sorry to delusional ducks fans)

    Holl and Manson has to be a wash. Holl is playing better hockey is signed for half as much and an extra year. I know everyone seems to love him for some reason but I watch a ton of ducks games out here. Even get to a few at the saddledome. Manson is just not that good. He scored more goals on his own net then the Oppenheimer this past season. He is just not the Manson of 2 years ago.

    Steel is a good young player Johnsson and engvall doesn’t get you a young player with potential from a team that wants to rebuild.

    Two firsts for nylander is what it boils down to. Do you want to role the dice and see if you get a nylander caliber player? I don’t.

    Your trade csick is absolutely horrible. To move up 9 spots in the draft and acquire a Dman I put closer on par with zaitsev than others we give up nylander? A horrible trade for sure.
    1 oct. 2020 à 22 h 32
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    Quoting: BuckoJoyde
    Oh I agree. This is just a bad post to begin with all due respect to OP. Nylander would be our best forward if he's on the squad. Steel is going to be a middle six guy is whole career imo. I just was inferring like similar players his age he needs the system to grow and the ducks are like the the mid 2010 leafs with no strong identity to promote said growth.

    But yea I agree with everything you said here. I apologize for assuming you had different take then ya did.


    Most of it comes from my view of Manson. You could swap him with gudbranson and I wouldn’t mind.

    What people don’t realize is that the ducks have two AWESOME Dmen. Fowler and lindholm. Gudbranson was a perfect example of what playing with those two guys can make you look like.
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    1 oct. 2020 à 23 h 1
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Lol no. Just drop the fluff and the 6th overall.

    Think the max ANA would offer is Manson+Steel+BOS 1st for Nylander. More than that and it's just not worth it.


    A late first a fringe top four Dman and a young middle 6 winger for nylander? That’s an easy pass.
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