Quoting: Shanesaw9
Ok.
TB trades a 1st and an AHL prospect for Goodrow and a 3rd. Goodrow scored a career high 26 pts in 70 games this year (8 goals) with 2 yrs of $925k cap hit.
TB trades a 1st and dumps Coburn (A depth D that only averaged 14 min for TB last season and was a healthy scratch through most of the playoffs and is overpaid $900k way too much for a depth D in TB) for Acciari, who scored 27 pts (20 goals!) at a cap hit of $833k for 2 years because Florida is retaining $833k for two seasons.
So in the first trade TB gets a 3rd back and adds an AHL guy. In the 2nd trade Florida takes on about $1.733M in year 1 and $833k in year two of salary, which is worth a 3rd if not more.
Now which UFA's aren't signing, oh I'm sorry all of them? So Maroon isn't taking a raise? Bogosian and Schenn won't sign for what they signed for last year? Lundqvist, Green, and Boyle (38, 37, and 35 respectively and have never won a cup) won't sign with the defending Stanley cup champs for what may be there last shot at winning? Are you aware of a thing called performance bonuses? Players on ELC's or 35+ are eligible for performance bonuses and every team is allowed to exceed the salary cap by 8% in performance bonuses. TB currently has no performance bonuses on their roster which means they have $6.52M available to give in performance bonuses to those three UFA's.
Everyone on this site always has to argue, but does not put any thought into there argument... it is tiring.
So to summarize tour arguement:
- TB wont do that trade that they just did before winning a cup.
- Washed up 35+ UFA's who have never won a cup aren't gonna sign in TB with the defending stanley cup champs, with the best taxes and weather in the NHL, and with a team that has $6.52M available to offer in performance bonuses because the market is just gonna be a crazy bidding war for these guys.
Seriously.
"7. Signed veterans who will want a chance at the cup to minimum contracts. Greene, Lundqvist, Boyle, etc. "
You never said you added bonuses.
And TBL isn't the only contender, there are other options for these guys. Those trades isn't the same thing.
In the Goodrow case:
-Has one year left on his deal
-$925K so it's a really good given his performance (it helps Tampa who don't have much cap space)
-Prices go up at trade deadline
The 1st round pick was also going to be a late one (and it is) so it's kind of a 2nd. The 3rd is mid-round so in the end there isn't that much gap between that. That being said, advantage SJ.
In the Coburn-Acciari deal, Coburn can still be a #6 D and is at a reasonable price: $1.7M isn't much for a 6th/7th D. Acciari scored 20 goals but that doesn't make him a top6 player: he is a 4th liner on a really good team. Even if TBL get the better player, they only gain $850K or so, it's almost nothing compared to moving Gourde, Johnson or Killorn.
A 3rd+Coburn for Acciari at best.