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Créé par: exo2769

Équipe: 2020-21 Blackhawks de Chicago

Date de création initiale: 8 août 2020

Publié: 8 août 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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The thing about the PIT 2020 1st round pick is that I'm not 100% sure they're going to want it back. SURE I 1,000% understand why if you only think about it for 5 seconds....even my brain would say...WTF why wouldn't they? They're clearly going to make the playoffs. So send the worse pick. I actually agree with that logic...BUT if I were a PIT fan that understands what the term "sunk cost" means....Things get hairy. IF PIT's window is TRULY closing...which it is. Let's not fool each other. They I'd probably want that 2021 1st so I can use it during the TDL next year. The Stanley Cup can't be half A$$ed. If I were Bowman I'd make this MIN trade and toss a few silver dollars PITs way to make sure they don't take the 2020 1st back.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Kubalik, Dominik		5	5 000 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Crawford, Corey		2	3 000 000 $
Talbot, Cam		1	2 000 000 $

Transactions

CHI

Greenway, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

I saw this from a MIN fan. I actually like it too. Let's make it happen.

MIN

Strome, Dylan [Droits de RFA]

CHI

Misyul, Daniil [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NYI)

NJD

Caggiula, Drake [Droits de RFA]
De Haan, Calvin

Détails additionnels:

NJD...these are two NHL playoff caliber players. These guys are tough and will help your prospect develop.

CHI

Bjugstad, Nick

Détails additionnels:

Help JR realize that IF he takes back the 2020 pick....he's got nothing to trade @ the TDL next year. I know PIT didn't do well this year, but EVERY SINGLE YEAR multiple teams trade away their 1st to get better for the playoffs. PIT won't be able to address any deficiencies without their 1st next year.

PIT

Krys, Chad
Sikura, Dylan
Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (CHI)

Détails additionnels:

Bjugstad's cap is the real benefit for PIT, but they can also help their depleted farm system too. The Hawks and flip him for something even less, but retain as well.

Rachats de contrats

Olli Määttä: 680 600 $

Enfoui

Zack Smith: 2 175 000 $ (3 250 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	69 659 306 $	1 090 244 $	6 832 500 $	11 840 694 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kubalik, Dominik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Toews, Jonathan 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Saad, Brandon 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
DeBrincat, Alex 6 400 000 $6 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Dach, Kirby 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) C, AD RFA - 2	Kane, Patrick 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 3
Nylander, Alexander 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 1	Suter, Pius 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) C, AG UFA - 1	Bjugstad, Nick 2 050 000 $2 050 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
Highmore, Matthew 725 000 $725 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Kämpf, David 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Shaw, Andrew 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
		Carpenter, Ryan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Keith, Duncan 5 538 462 $5 538 462 $ DG NMC UFA - 3	Murphy, Connor 3 850 000 $3 850 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Carlsson, Lucas 792 500 $792 500 $ (82 500 $$82K) DG UFA - 1	Boqvist, Adam 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 2
Kalynuk, Wyatt 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG UFA - 2	Mitchell, Ian 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 3	Crawford, Corey 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
	Seabrook, Brent 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Talbot, Cam 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 3

8 août 2020 à 19 h 26

Ragsandbluesfan

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too much IMO

8 août 2020 à 19 h 26

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

too much IMO

elaborate please

8 août 2020 à 19 h 27

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Well the lottery is monday.

Depending on how high pick it is they should roll with it.

2020 draft is projected as stronger though so I don't see the scenario where they're not retaining the pick happening.

8 août 2020 à 19 h 29

Ragsandbluesfan

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Quoting: exo2769

elaborate please

Im big on greenway, you cant teach his combination of skill and size, I feel like the wild would rather part with donato

8 août 2020 à 19 h 29

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Quoting: justaBoss

OK...BUT what if they want to go for it next year? Take a minute to think about it. SIX different teams traded their 1st rounder last year. PIT won't be able to do that.

8 août 2020 à 19 h 33

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Quoting: exo2769

OK...BUT what if they want to go for it next year? Take a minute to think about it. SIX different teams traded their 1st rounder last year. PIT won't be able to do that.

If they want to go for it they can trade the player that they took with their (probably) higher pick in a better draft.

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8 août 2020 à 19 h 37

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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason

If they want to go for it they can trade the player that they took with their (probably) higher pick in a better draft.

That's not really a smart move. You're suggesting every team feels the same way about every prospect. They dont. Also...im not intending to be too literal, but the trade seller at the next TDL may have very different needs than whom ever PIT takes. The 1st would be worth more.

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8 août 2020 à 19 h 47

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I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm saying that they aren't without a valuable trade chip if they choose to keep this years pick. The statement that the 1st would be worth more is quite absurd, though. It could be, but that is completely dependent on a number of things (i.e the D+1 performance of the 2020 selected player, how Pittsburgh finishes next season, strengths of the respective drafts which doesn't bode well for the idea of moving this years pick).

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8 août 2020 à 19 h 56

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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason

Fair...BUT its a risk.

8 août 2020 à 20 h 9

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Quoting: exo2769

Fair...BUT its a risk.

Sure, but so is the alternative along with pretty much every decision an organization makes that will affect their team

8 août 2020 à 20 h 13

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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason

Sure, but so is the alternative along with pretty much every decision an organization makes that will affect their team

So...why not get assets from the Hawks to make that risk worth it??? A separate discussion can be had on if this is enough.

8 août 2020 à 21 h 6

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Is Jordan greenway actually mobile for a 6’6’ player? That’s my only concern.

8 août 2020 à 21 h 11

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Quoting: exo2769

So...why not get assets from the Hawks to make that risk worth it??? A separate discussion can be had on if this is enough.

If MIN trades PIT’s 1st rounder to CHI, then PIT wins the lottery & CHI wants PIT to take off the condition, then they better be ready to give up a lot of assets to make it possible. Like we’re talking Kurashev & Regula, possibly more. I’m not even sure if you’d be allowed to do that honestly. IMO PIT has a very strong top 6 Forward & top 4 D. They just need to get an upgrade on third pairing defence which will be EZ. Don’t see any reason for them to trade their 2021 1st even if they contend. So I’d much rather keep Lafreniere.

8 août 2020 à 22 h 14

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Modifié 9 août 2020 à 7 h 25

Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

No, I'm suggesting PIT doesnt win the lottery. Then its pick ~15... CHI should still make the trade IMO so that its not the 2021 pick and PIT can then still use the 2021 pick at the TDL to try to win the cup next year.

8 août 2020 à 22 h 46

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Is Jordan greenway actually mobile for a 6’6’ player? That’s my only concern.

From what I've seen he can move. He's no McDavid, but no one should expect it either.

8 août 2020 à 23 h 4

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From what I've seen he can move. He's no McDavid, but no one should expect it either.

I looked up some video, he’s definitely got a Ben eager vibe to him, only he can score and assist. If he really put on muscle, Jesus H, just imagine how much he’d be like byfuglien. If they keep growing everyone the right way and patiently, man this could really start to look like the 2010 team again. I’ll always say that 2010 was the best of the cap era, bar none, full stop, period.

9 août 2020 à 7 h 34

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Gotta sign Greenway and get him in the lineup

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9 août 2020 à 7 h 34

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Gotta sign Greenway and get him in the lineup

Yup sorry. Wow. Can't believe I didn't put him in LOL

9 août 2020 à 10 h 26

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Ah, that makes sense now thanks for clarifying.

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