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Créé par: Gordon_Bombay

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 19 juill. 2020

Publié: 19 juill. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I think Lehtonen will be a top 4 D and what I have heard is that he can play on the right side too.

Johansson will prbably have a hard time in Minnesota, as the right side is actually quite good there and he also has prospects ahead of thim in Minnesota.

Also, I think that Dermott would be an attractive option for the Calgary flames, as they have a lot of UFAs on D this offseaon, so Dermott would be a nice option there, and Kerfoot could contribute on in Calgary as a 2nd line winger or 3rd line centre or winger. I think combined, this return is not crazy (probably a mid to later 1st round pick.

I know that the D looks kind of weak on paper. But I think the left side is actually quite solid.

Lehtonen is not a young kid anymore and is seen by many euro scouts as the top Euro Free Agent this summer and Liljegren did very well in the AHL last season. They could consider bringing in a UFA with the 2.3 m cap space for a season.

What do you think?

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gauthier, Frédérik	3	700 000 $
Malgin, Denis	2	700 000 $
Veronneau, Max	2	700 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya	4	2 250 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Spezza, Jason		1	700 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Donato, Ryan
Johansson, Filip [Liste de réserve]

Détails additionnels:

Filip Johnsson probably has no mid term future in Minnesota, as they got Cale Addison from the Pens, who is probably better right now and also a RHD that will evetually fill in behind Dumba and Spurgeon on the right side

MIN

Bracco, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
Johnsson, Andreas
Rosén, Calle
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)

TOR

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)

CGY

Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
Kerfoot, Alexander
Petan, Nicolas
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (TOR)

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	79 188 116 $	0 $	400 000 $	2 311 884 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 4	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
Mikheyev, Ilya 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 5
Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Donato, Ryan 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Barabanov, Alexander 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Malgin, Denis 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Lehtonen, Mikko 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Kivihalme, Teemu 725 000 $725 000 $ DG UFA - 2
Gauthier, Frédérik 700 000 $700 000 $ C UFA - 1
Korshkov, Yegor 925 000 $925 000 $ AD RFA - 1

19 juill. 2020 à 9 h 11

TanSor

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Seems like an overpayment for Donato and Johansson, but the wild have no need for any of the pieces the Leafs are sending us here, other than maybe the pick but even the pick is for 2022...

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19 juill. 2020 à 9 h 20

Gordon_Bombay

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Quoting: TanSor

Seems like an overpayment for Donato and Johansson, but the wild have no need for any of the pieces the Leafs are sending us here, other than maybe the pick but even the pick is for 2022...

I think Johnsson would be a direct upgrade over Donato or Greenway and who knows if your UFAs are resigning. Rosen might be a 7th D and Braco is kind of a wildcard. I still think he could be a player

19 juill. 2020 à 9 h 28

busdriver

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Flames need a top 6 RW and a RH defenseman. Pass.

19 juill. 2020 à 9 h 36

TanSor

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

I think Johnsson would be a direct upgrade over Donato or Greenway and who knows if your UFAs are resigning. Rosen might be a 7th D and Braco is kind of a wildcard. I still think he could be a player

Sure but we already have too many wings so it doesn't matter if he's an upgrade he'd still be a very expensive 3rd liner for us at best (our top 9 wingers are Fiala, Kaprizov, Parise, Kunin, Zuccarello, and one of Donato/Greenway/Foligno with Boldy coming soon). If we trade for him, either him or Greenway is then forced to the 4th line and they both need top 9 minutes to develop. Not to mention we're taking on more cap in this trade and we'll have to pay big money to Fiala and Kaprizov with Ek likely getting a long term deal as well. Not sure what you mean by our UFA's, since we don't have any UFA wingers (Galchenyuk played center for us mainly).

Like I said, it's an overpayment for the Leafs, but it doesn't fit our needs at all and puts us in a worse situation cap-wise.

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19 juill. 2020 à 9 h 40

OutCold13

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Been seeing a few trades on ACGM lately that have teams acquiring Johansson, i'm sure based on his draft position. At the moment he looks like he will never make it to the NHL. I won't completely count him out since Fenton has a ability to see talent that nobody else can see. Just saying right now the pick looks like a bust.

19 juill. 2020 à 9 h 43

Nighthawk

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Flames say no cap room...

19 juill. 2020 à 9 h 47

Gordon_Bombay

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Quoting: Paul13

I agree, I think he is more of a long shot

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19 juill. 2020 à 10 h 54

Trevorchef

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Left side D is solid. Right side D is still below NHL quality in this scenario.

The bottom line is that it doesn't matter what anyone has "heard". Until we see Lehtonen play in the NHL we just don't know what he is yet.

Aside from Kapanen... That bottom six is crap.

No thanks to this at all.

Pass.

19 juill. 2020 à 10 h 59

Gordon_Bombay

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Quoting: Trevorchef

give me cap space and I'll give you a decent right side and a better botton 6.

19 juill. 2020 à 11 h 3

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BlastyRocks

Beanmachine

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Neither of those players address any Flames needs. If we are sending this years first the package would have to include Kap somehow

19 juill. 2020 à 11 h 9

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Trevorchef

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

give me cap space and I'll give you a decent right side and a better botton 6.

No ****?

That doesn't change the fact that what you have here isn't nearly good enough.

19 juill. 2020 à 11 h 22

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MNBassman

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Less than zero interest in any of those pieces heading Minnesota’s way. Every single one is a redundant, or completely useless piece for what the Wild need to do.
However, the pieces you are asking for in return are also redundant and (almost) useless for the same reasons so it’s not a terrible trade value-wise, it just doesn’t accomplish anything.

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19 juill. 2020 à 11 h 47

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Flames decline

19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 18

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: TanSor

Seems like an overpayment for Donato and Johansson, but the wild have no need for any of the pieces the Leafs are sending us here, other than maybe the pick but even the pick is for 2022...

Has Donato even played center for Minnesota?
I see he's listed as one and buddy is using him here at 3C but has he actually played it with the Wild? Am guessing he would of been used on the wing in Boston.

What line did Galchenyuk center for the Wild?

19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 20

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MisstheWhalers

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I'm not a Flames fan but I could see all of those players being of use to them but there's so so sooo
many dmen available in free agency I'm sure they'll fill their needs on D going that route rather then trading for one.

19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 23

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JayTea

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Mostly 3C, which is where he was at the season pause. I think he had Foligno and Zuccarello as his wings, but it all sort of blurs together at this point. I was trying to remember who else the Wild played at center when they didn't have Galchenyuk and Rask was a healthy scratch.

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19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 24

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TanSor

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

We tried him there briefly but he belongs on the wing.

Galchenyuk centered the 3rd line, but we roll our middle 6 lines pretty evenly.

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19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 27

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JayTea

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Quoting: TanSor

We tried him there briefly but he belongs on the wing.

Galchenyuk centered the 3rd line, but we roll our middle 6 lines pretty evenly.

Was Donato the 4C to start the season? I was trying to remember, seemed like we went Staal > Koivu > Ek > ??? and I can't remember who the 4C was.

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19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 29

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: JayTea

Quoting: TanSor

We tried him there briefly but he belongs on the wing.

Galchenyuk centered the 3rd line, but we roll our middle 6 lines pretty evenly.

Thanks for the responses!

Do you two think the Wild sign Galchenyuk?
I still think there's a decent player in him even if it's just a good middle 6 option.

Not that the Jets would ever sign him but I wonder if he couldn't be an okay 2C, Ehlers and Laine have matured enough that they can carry an average center now or so it seems that way at least.

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19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 40

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JayTea

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

I think if Guerin can't find a way to trade for a legit top 6 C, he'll extend Galchenyuk and go Staal > Ek > Galch > Sturm down the middle next year. Galch speaks Russian, so he'd also be good to have around to help out Kaprizov as he adjusts to living in North America.

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19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 44

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TanSor

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Quoting: JayTea

Was Donato the 4C to start the season? I was trying to remember, seemed like we went Staal > Koivu > Ek > ??? and I can't remember who the 4C was.

I can't remember to be honest, but I think Rask was. I know we tried Donato at center in the bottom 6 at some point but I may have been due to injury

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19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 47

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JayTea

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Quoting: TanSor

I can't remember to be honest, but I think Rask was. I know we tried Donato at center in the bottom 6 at some point but I may have been due to injury

Wasn't Rask a healthy scratch to start the season?

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19 juill. 2020 à 12 h 52

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TanSor

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Quoting: JayTea

Wasn't Rask a healthy scratch to start the season?

Maybe, like I said I can't remember. I know we tried Donato at center at some point but whether it was the start of the season or after I'm not sure

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