Do these trades work

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Créé par: OldmanWebber

Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2020

Publié: 16 juin 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

1. Winnipeg trade: Now I don't think that Winnipeg moves Ehlers, no, but if they did, would this be enough? To me this seems like fair value.
2. St Louis Blues trade: To me this seems like an overpay by Montreal but I would be willing to do it to strengthen our LD now instead of 2 or 3 years from now. Blues get cap relief to sign their captain, as well as a serviceable player in Mete and a very good defensemen prospect in Struble. I really feel that the draft pick in this should be going to Montreal not from Montreal where they are Buying out Steen and taking the full salary from Allen, but I think getting Dunn is worth the overpay.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Evans, Jake	3	975 000 $
Hudon, Charles	1	875 000 $
Juulsen, Noah	2	900 000 $
Ouellet, Xavier	1	800 000 $
Vejdemo, Lukas	2	813 000 $
McNiven, Michael	2	700 000 $
Blandisi, Joseph	1	723 000 $
Dunn, Vince	2	2 333 333 $

Transactions

MTL

Ehlers, Nikolaj

WPG

Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
Ylönen, Jesse
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)

MTL

STL

Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
Struble, Jayden [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WSH)

Détails additionnels:

Montreal agrees to buy out Steen so he can sign back with the Blues and league minimum. Montreal also takes Allens full salary. They also send back a serviceable dman in Mete and a good dman prospect in Struble along with a middle pick.

Rachats de contrats

Alexander Steen: 3 416 667 $

Enfoui

Karl Alzner: 3 550 000 $ (4 625 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	78 547 976 $	0 $	3 137 500 $	2 952 024 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Tatar, Tomas 4 800 000 $4 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Danault, Phillip 3 083 333 $3 083 333 $ C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 1
Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick 863 333 $863 333 $ (425 000 $$425K) C UFA - 2	Ehlers, Nikolaj 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 5
Lehkonen, Artturi 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel 2 600 000 $2 600 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Evans, Jake 975 000 $975 000 $ C UFA - 2
Hudon, Charles 875 000 $875 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA		Weal, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Chiarot, Ben 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Weber, Shea 7 857 143 $7 857 143 $ DD UFA - 6	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 6
Dunn, Vince 2 333 333 $2 333 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Petry, Jeff 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG RFA - 2	Juulsen, Noah 900 000 $900 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Allen, Jake 4 350 000 $4 350 000 $ G UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett 925 000 $925 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

16 juin 2020 à 14 h 11

zk97

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WPG seems fair
STL overpay

16 juin 2020 à 14 h 12

Howisjulienstillhere

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Don’t like the first trade. Can’t see stl making the second deal

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16 juin 2020 à 14 h 13

OldmanWebber

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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere

Don’t like the first trade. Can’t see stl making the second deal

STL would be crazy not to make the second deal.

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16 juin 2020 à 14 h 14

Howisjulienstillhere

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Quoting: OldmanWebber

STL would be crazy not to make the second deal.

One year of steen. A good backup and a solid young d

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16 juin 2020 à 14 h 16

OldmanWebber

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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere

One year of steen. A good backup and a solid young d

They need cap space to sign their Captain. That gives them that. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

16 juin 2020 à 14 h 26

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Tough to decide as a Blues fan. I think the value’s there but I’m not keen on giving up Dunn. I think we may be able to get rid of Steen for whatever we get back in an Allen deal. We’re also probably moving Bozak and he’ll bring back assets we can use to get a team to take on Steen if we choose. I’d say no to the deal because of these factors, but a very fair offer.

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16 juin 2020 à 14 h 27

mnwild1790

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Quoting: OldmanWebber

They need cap space to sign their Captain. That gives them that. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

Yeah but you're trading away their best LD to resign the Captain. I think St Louis finds a different route where they offload Steen's contract on a team, which should be enough to resign Pietrangelo and keep Dunn. I think they'll be hesitant to downgrade from Dunn to Mete instead of offloading a less important player to find cap space

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16 juin 2020 à 14 h 40

OldmanWebber

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Quoting: BluesBandit

Got you thinking, that's something...lol

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16 juin 2020 à 14 h 44

A_K

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Might be a hot take but I'd rather have the next 8 years of Dunn versus the next 8 years of Pietrangelo, all things considered - younger, cheaper, more balanced with Parayko-Faulk already on the right side. Now if there is a way to sign Petro without losing Dunn, I'm all for it. (And there is, but it's more complicated than what can typically happen in an offseason, especially one with no cap increase.)

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16 juin 2020 à 14 h 48

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If I'm a Habs fan, I'm pissed that the Canadian have 3.6m in dead buyout cap and about 2.5m paying too much for backup. Couldn't that 6m be used to acquire a real player? Gee, you signed Dunn for just 2.3, and 6.1m is just wasted.

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