Obviously Byram is still just a prospect but aren't all great players before they're in the league? Not comparing the two but McDavid had never played a game in the NHL but I don't think Edmonton would've traded that 1st overall pick for anything. If you're good at hockey, it translates. Byram is projected to be a top pairing dman and they wouldn't trade that for a 2nd liner coming off a weak season. Also 6.4M is still a lot when compared to a 925k ELC

I agree.

The only type of forward that I would realistically consider trading Byram for is someone like Connor who is:

1) A proven top line scorer (i.e. 3 seasons of 30+ goals);
2) Young; and
3) Cost-controlled / good contract with term.

But even then it would take a lot of thinking as it's not an easy decision.

I don't even think they'd do it for that. Value wise it makes sense but I really think Sakic is trying to hold onto these elite young players. Eichel is the only player I can think of that would actually be traded to Colorado with Byram as apart of the return

Yeah, I think you're right. If the cap had risen then it would have been a consideration, but if the cap stays flat then players on ELC's will be even more valuable than usual. Not to mention exemption from the Expansion Draft.

Its really crazy whats happening with the cap and this expansion draft. GMs need to be smarter than ever with how competitive most of the league is

For me Landeskog is just on the fringe of it and if you expanded it pass 6 he is part of it. But yes age imo plays part of it, as does production and contract. Newhook again this is just my opinion is going to be a ppg C in the NHL and that potential supersedes what Landeskog is right now. And by no means is any of this a knock on Landy, I still think he is one of the best 2 way forwards in the NHL, and is a great captain.

Not being a smart ass, just never heard the term "tag me" but then again, I'm not on social media so wouldn't know the latest terms floating around.

We can continue to debate which is 100% fine by me, I'm okay with people have differences in opinions and I'm certainly not offended when someone is direct and verbose.

Obviously Byram is not returning Connor or Eichel. Byram's ceiling is a 1st line but how many top 10 or top 10 picks don't actually hit their ceiling? Roughly 2/3rd's? Go back historically and see what they said about players versus what they've done today...Strome and Nylander are both good examples on the Hawks. Doesn't mean they are bad players but they haven't and likely won't hit the prospect ceiling they were labeled with. As such, no team in their right mind is going to trade a top 20 forward in the league with term for Byram regardless if defense is considered more valuable. However, which is what I think you meant, he could be part of a package that that grabs a Eichel type of player.

I like Byram but believe he is also overrated in what was a weaker draft year last year for D unlike the year prior where Byram IMO would have gone in the middle of the top 5 D guys.

Debrincat isn’t a top nhl player, hes good but he is coming off a 45 point season. Right now his 70 point season looks like the outlier and he’s more a 50 point guy

Doesn’t move the needle for avs to abandon their future d core for the next decade, especially with avs having Newhook on the way who could just be like debrincat or better

He is coming off a 45 point season, he doesn’t move the needle dude. Avs have Newhook coming as well, who is better defensively that the cat and can play in that role

Debrincat doesn’t offer anything the avs don’t already have and you don’t have to trade byram for him

Oh I'm not suggesting Cat is a top 20 player, I was referring to the other posters mentioning Eichel or Connor.

Regarding Cat, he was on pace for a 53 point season. I think Cat is going to be a 55 to 65 point player. Hard to say at 22 years old and 3 seasons what is and isn't a outlier.

I'm one of the rare Hawks fans who is a HUGE Cat fan...I believe he's a great sniper and damn good at doing that, but I'm not going to pretend he will ever be a top 20 forward in the league. Top 50 sure. I wouldn't however trade Cat for Newhook. Unproven assets more often then not won't ever hit their ceilings.

Just ask them for dach and Boqvist

Dach should be = or better (in trade value) than Byram with how he did this year.

Fair.

Are you trading dach for anyone coming off a 45 point season on pace for 50 points?

No? Oh ok then this convo is over