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Buchnevich trade NYR

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 31 mai 2020
Publié: 31 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Curious to hear thoughts on a potential trade of Buchnevich to Colorado. What is he worth / what do Rangers want in return for him?

If the trade proposal below is too low then please make a counter-offer. I don't know what Buch is worth so I appreciate feedback.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
45 000 000 $
32 750 000 $
22 250 000 $
1925 000 $
Transactions
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NYR
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
  2. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
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COL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav [Droits de RFA]
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $74 993 095 $0 $5 425 000 $6 506 905 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 571 429 $5 571 429 $
AG, C
M-NTC
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 1
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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31 mai 2020 à 16 h 10
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31 mai 2020 à 16 h 12
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Not enough for Buchnevich imo, and Lindgren's play is similar to Zadorov's (from what I've heard)
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31 mai 2020 à 16 h 25
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Not enough for Buchnevich imo, and Lindgren's play is similar to Zadorov's (from what I've heard)


What would be the ask for Buchevnich then?

As for Lindgren, his playstyle might be similar, but there's an enormous difference between 6'0'' 191lbs and 6'6'' 235lbs...
31 mai 2020 à 16 h 31
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What would be the ask for Buchevnich then?

As for Lindgren, his playstyle might be similar, but there's an enormous difference between 6'0'' 191lbs and 6'6'' 235lbs...


For a 25 yo 50 pts winger, I think it starts with your 2020 1st but I doubt NYR trades him for futures since they want to contend now and Buchnevich is a big part of their top 6.
31 mai 2020 à 16 h 31
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Buchnevich and Kapanen are both super overrated on this site. They are both 3rd line 40pt players, nothing more nothing less
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31 mai 2020 à 16 h 33
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Lol no thx
31 mai 2020 à 16 h 33
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Quoting: csick
Buchnevich and Kapanen are both super overrated on this site. They are both 3rd line 40pt players, nothing more nothing less


They bring much more to the table than their PT total.
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31 mai 2020 à 16 h 34
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Quoting: SevenLeg
For a 25 yo 50 pts winger, I think it starts with your 2020 1st but I doubt NYR trades him for futures since they want to contend now and Buchnevich is a big part of their top 6.


I'm not sure he's worth a 1st. If we're including a 1st in trade proposals then I'd rather target someone the next level up from Buchnevich.
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31 mai 2020 à 16 h 34
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They bring much more to the table than their PT total.


They’re closer to Chris Tierney than guys like Domi/Reinhart
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31 mai 2020 à 16 h 45
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Quoting: csick
They’re closer to Chris Tierney than guys like Domi/Reinhart


Pretty much. Once a 1st is on the table you're talking Tatar/Domi/Drouin/Rakell/Reinhart for 1st + prospect type of trade. Buchnevich/Kapanen/Johnsson types simply don't have that value - especially in a flat cap league in an Expansion Draft year.
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31 mai 2020 à 16 h 47
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lol. Take Zadorov & Jost out, add something of value, then come back
31 mai 2020 à 16 h 52
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Quoting: csick
They’re closer to Chris Tierney than guys like Domi/Reinhart


That’s a spot on assessment. Which isn’t a bad thing at all. Excellent 3rd liners and average 2nd liners.
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Quoting: Lord_Simek
That’s a spot on assessment. Which isn’t a bad thing at all. Excellent 3rd liners and average 2nd liners.


Yeah middle 6 guys mostly. They can play anywhere in the lineup but they support other guys
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31 mai 2020 à 17 h 10
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Quoting: csick
They’re closer to Chris Tierney than guys like Domi/Reinhart


another guy on this site who evaluates players by their pointsrolling eyes
31 mai 2020 à 17 h 31
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lol. Take Zadorov & Jost out, add something of value, then come back


As I said in the description I'd love to hear a counter proposal. That would be way more constructive than just trashing the proposal.
31 mai 2020 à 17 h 38
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As I said in the description I'd love to hear a counter proposal. That would be way more constructive than just trashing the proposal.


At the very least a first. Jost was 12th among Colorado F's in TOI/GP (13th if you include Namestnikov), Zadorov was 5th in Dman TOI/GP (with a staggering 4 seconds more than Cole). That does not get you a Top 6 F.
31 mai 2020 à 17 h 51
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At the very least a first. Jost was 12th among Colorado F's in TOI/GP (13th if you include Namestnikov), Zadorov was 5th in Dman TOI/GP (with a staggering 4 seconds more than Cole). That does not get you a Top 6 F.


Jost is only 12th in ice-time because of how stacked Colorado's roster is. He's also only 22. Most players only break into the league around that age, yet Jost has already played 200+ games and scored 66 points. Lot's of upside.

Zadorov has been a legit top 4 D for most of his time in Colorado, but is now 5th due to the fact that we have a gluttony of riches at LHD.
31 mai 2020 à 18 h 8
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Jost is only 12th in ice-time because of how stacked Colorado's roster is. He's also only 22. Most players only break into the league around that age, yet Jost has already played 200+ games and scored 66 points. Lot's of upside.

Zadorov has been a legit top 4 D for most of his time in Colorado, but is now 5th due to the fact that we have a gluttony of riches at LHD.


If they were better, they'd have been played more. If you're going to use best possible projections, then I'm going to say Buchnevich is a 60-70 pt RW. As is, he's far and away the Rangers best current RW. He's also cheaper than the pair of them now, BEFORE they demand raises. Unless you're trading a 1st or Girard for him, there's probably no deal to be made
31 mai 2020 à 18 h 18
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Honestly if you swap Buch with Strome, it's an interesting offer.
31 mai 2020 à 18 h 29
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Honestly if you swap Buch with Strome, it's an interesting offer.


We've already been through that in the earlier AGM's today... wink
 
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