Yeah they would be but it would make sense because they would still be learning. They’d become cup contenders in 2021-22. Or if they signed JT they needed to move either Willy or Marner

Well, considering his contract desaster, I wonder if teams are still trying to stay away. So I will say His value then was equal to what it is now. But if he was traded and we avoided his desaster season, we would be better of.

Except when you need to add to the D, you don’t get Barrie who does nothing to help that

Barrie's usage was the problem. Trust me, if he had been used properly at the start of the season under Babcock and he had 40-50 points by now no one would be complaining.

Absolutely moronic to move him at that point. He would have been nowhere near his highest value.

Incredibly poor asset mgmt.

I can see why you think Dubas is doing such a bad job. He actually has good ideas, as opposed to what your are proposing in here.

Then he should've fired Babcock before the season started

Ok, sorry, I actually didn't realize it hs only been 1.5 seasons. Thought it was 2.5 for a second. Still. He hasn't shown his philosophy is a good one. He needs to modify it.

All of that is just nonsense. Use Edmonton as an example, they pay 2 players over 20 million dollars, are they the problem their? Crosby and Malkin got a higher percentage of the cap when they signed their last deals than Matthews and JT have, are they the problems there? Kane makes 10.5 and is he the problem in Chicago? The answer to all that is no. Stars getting paid isn't ever a problem. Look at teams in a bad cap situation that aren't good teams and its never their best players that are the problem, its too much money in the hands of secondary players that is the problem. The leafs do not have that problem. People like you said Kapanen was going to get 5+ million when his ELC was over, the Leafs didn't and wouldn't give him that kind of money because he isn't worth it.

The notion the Leafs defence sucks is also not very correct, they had poor goaltending this past year, fired their coach who wanted them to play a system that just didn't work and their new coach had to deal with losing 3 of their top 6 players at the same time. How good do you think Tampa would be if they lost Hedman and McDonaugh for an extended period? Judging from how they performed when Hedman was hurt at the end of last season and wasn't healthy in the first round, not well.

But its always fun to ignore all that, blame a guy who's been on the job for less than 2 seasons and had to clean up the mess Lou left him with, all the while having a very young team deal with a coach that berates more than he teaches. Garbage arguments, all of what you said. None of it is emotions, its logic and facts. Emotion is hating the team and enjoying pissing off their fans.

Nope Nylander had a great value during the 2018 offseason

Nope Nylander had a great value during the 2018 offseason

How many RFAs of his calibre are dealt before their second contract?

Very few.

For one, other teams are scared of their contract demands. Secondly, it's poor asset mgmt to deal a guy before they have peaked, on the chance that you look pretty foolish when they become point per game players.

He has 46M wrapped up in 4 players, that's more than half of the salary cap. Any GM in there right mind who thinks they can do that and still fill the rest of the team with quality under 35M is both nyeve and illogical so either he's just a bad GM or he's just not ready for it..

He was at his highest value then. That is part of why it was a big mistake.

Getting rid of Zaitsev is the incentive.

Deal him before his peak or have 4 top 6 players making over 46M against the cap and have 35M to build a championship team?

Deal him before his peak or have 4 top 6 players making over 46M against the cap and have 35M to build a championship team?

Except Drai and 97 are way better than any of the players TOR has and Crosby and Malkin are bargains

People like me said Kappy would get 5 mil? Lol I think you hears voices in your head I saw no one saying that. Ever.

Yeah, they had poor goaltending, because their d-core allowes so many high danger chances! Thx Barrie, Ceci and Marincin.

Ah yes so I now hate my 2nd favorite team? Wow thx for the info

Well, considering his contract desaster, I wonder if teams are still trying to stay away. So I will say His value then was equal to what it is now. But if he was traded and we avoided his desaster season, we would be better of.

It's not just something Babs made it out to be. A couple years ago, there was an article in the Hockey News that explained that RHD's get paid more since there are less of them. They have more worth than lefties since there are less of them. And in any case, Pesce has insane shot suppression numbers and playing on a pair with Rielly wouldn't be much of a difference from Slavin

Lol he's funny. Would you rather have McDavid and Draisaitl for 20M, Crosby and Malkin for roughly 19M, OR Matthew's and Tavares for basically 23M??? Idk about you, but the 1st two are better, cheaper, and more qualified to win Stanley cups.

Except Drai and 97 are way better than any of the players TOR has and Crosby and Malkin are bargains

People like me said Kappy would get 5 mil? Lol I think you heard voices in your head I saw no one saying that. Ever.

Yeah, they had poor goaltending, because their d-core allowes so many high danger chances! Thx Barrie, Ceci and Marincin.

Ah yes so I now hate my 2nd favorite team? Wow thx for the info

Forget to mention the Global Pandemic that is going to halt what was going to be a very steady rise of the salary cap year over year.

This ins't a fantasy draft situation you know, the rosters don't reset after one season. Having 5 years of cost certainty with your best 4 players, with the cap rising wasn't that bad of a position 4 months ago.