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Best possible JP trade MTL blockbuster

Créé par: ConnorMcHellebucyk
Date de création initiale: mai 10, 2020
Publié: May 10 at 12:20 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Oilers d'Edmonton
Transactions
EDM
  1. Danault, Phillip
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
  2. 2021 1e round pick (EDM)
  3. 2020 3e round pick (EDM)
EDM
    CBO
    ANA
    1. Neal, James
    Rachats de contrats
    • Andrej Sekera: 2 500 000 $
    • Benoit Pouliot: 1 333 333 $
    • Eric Gryba: 300 000 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
    • Sam Gagner: 315 000 $ (10%)
    Enfoui
    • Brandon Manning: 1 175 000 $ (2 250 000 $)
    • Markus Granlund: 225 000 $ (1 300 000 $)
    • Mike Green: 1 612 500 $ (2 687 500 $)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2020
    EDM
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    EDM
    EDM
    2021
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    PIT
    EDM
    2022
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $77 411 998 $0 $2 707 500 $4 088 002 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    EDM
    Athanasiou, Andreas
    3 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    McDavid, Connor
    12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 7
    EDM
    Yamamoto, Kailer
    894 166 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 2
    EDM
    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    6 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Draisaitl, Leon
    8 500 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 6
    EDM
    Ennis, Tyler
    800 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Haas, Gaëtan
    925 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    3 083 333 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Kassian, Zack
    1 950 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Sheahan, Riley
    900 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Khaira, Jujhar
    1 200 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    EDM
    Chiasson, Alex
    2 150 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    EDM
    Klefbom, Oscar
    4 167 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    Larsson, Adam
    4 166 666 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Koskinen, Mikko
    4 500 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    EDM
    Nurse, Darnell
    3 200 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Bear, Ethan
    720 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Smith, Mike
    2 000 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Jones, Caleb
    720 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Benning, Matthew
    1 900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    EDM
    Russell, Kris
    4 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Archibald, Josh
    1 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Nygård, Joakim
    925 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1

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    10 mai à 12 h 25
    #1
    Banni
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    Montreal isn't trading their 1c for that small of a package
    10 mai à 12 h 26
    #2
    Laf, Cole or Ray
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    Lol thats not even close... Be ready for some tasty comments
    ConnorMcHellebucyk, Silkysmooth42, Gabriel11 and 2 others a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 12 h 27
    #3
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    MTL don't really have a guy ready to replace Danault yet so moving him doesn't seem likely.
    10 mai à 12 h 28
    #4
    i hope ur hungry now
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    JP is worthless 💀💀💀
    Silkysmooth42 a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 12 h 28
    #5
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: math731
    Lol thats not even close... Be ready for some tasty comments


    lol I'd get comments like that anyway
    CD282 a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 12 h 28
    #6
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
    JP is worthless 💀💀💀


    Not true
    CD282 a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 12 h 30
    #7
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    10 mai à 12 h 33
    #8
    Silkysmooth
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    Montreal doesnt accept. No need to trade their number one C for that package.

    But also, for Edmonton, why get ANOTHER Center.

    You are already playing Drai or Nuge at LW,
    AA is playing Wing even though he is a Center
    and with this move, Haas is also being moved.

    Bring in a winger, or am I wrong?? Genuinely curious.
    Jesus et Gabriel11 a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 12 h 36
    #9
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    lol honestly its almost not worth making a trade with MTL on CF. I'd rather look to get Faksa then Danault cheaper to acquire and cheaper to sign long term. Faksa can fill the defensive #3C with just with bit less offense
    CD282 a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 12 h 39
    #10
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    Montreal doesnt accept. No need to trade their number one C for that package.

    But also, for Edmonton, why get ANOTHER Center.

    You are already playing Drai or Nuge at LW,
    AA is playing Wing even though he is a Center
    and with this move, Haas is also being moved.

    Bring in a winger, or am I wrong?? Genuinely curious.


    Having depth at center is always a good thing.. Danault, just like RNH would be too good to use in a #3C that's why he is playing wing and has looked pretty good there. But it also gives the Oilers a security blanket if there's an injury.

    AA isn't a center his defensive positioning and faceoffs need work before he can move back there
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    10 mai à 12 h 42
    #11
    Team caaaannnaaada
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    Modifié 10 mai à 12 h 51
    You are probably not aware of Danault but he is probably the most underrated guy’s around the league.
    He rank 31 in the league for 5 vs 5 point in the league. Ahead of Mitch Marner, Elias Pettersson, John Tavares, Kuznetzov, Barkov just to name these. He is near the top of the league in possession number corsi. He ranked at the top for faceoff, is ranked 2 in pass intercepted in defensive zone. Great penalty Killer.
    The Habs would be looking for a Ryan O’reilly return non less. Is on ice value goes far beyond the scoresheet. Would cost at less on of Bouchard or Broberg, a first round pick, another prospect like Lavoie or Maksimov and a established young player.
    (Yeah that would be conditional to a contract extension of course)
    ConnorMcHellebucyk a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 13 h 03
    #12
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    Dumb trade never happens
    10 mai à 13 h 11
    #13
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    Quoting: Xqb15
    Dumb trade never happens


    Thanks for your input!
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    10 mai à 13 h 17
    #14
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    You are probably not aware of Danault but he is probably the most underrated guy’s around the league.
    He rank 31 in the league for 5 vs 5 point in the league. Ahead of Mitch Marner, Elias Pettersson, John Tavares, Kuznetzov, Barkov just to name these. He is near the top of the league in possession number corsi. He ranked at the top for faceoff, is ranked 2 in pass intercepted in defensive zone. Great penalty Killer.
    The Habs would be looking for a Ryan O’reilly return non less. Is on ice value goes far beyond the scoresheet. Would cost at less on of Bouchard or Broberg, a first round pick, another prospect like Lavoie or Maksimov and a established young player.
    (Yeah that would be conditional to a contract extension of course)


    I find it funny you used the ROR return then listed a way better return. If you forgot ROR trade was 2 cap dumps, Tage Thompson, 2019 #31 OA and 2021 late 2nd round pick. Just Bouchard or Broberg is already worth more then that
    ConnorMcHellebucyk et CD282 a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 13 h 51
    #15
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    Montreal doesnt accept. No need to trade their number one C for that package.

    But also, for Edmonton, why get ANOTHER Center.

    You are already playing Drai or Nuge at LW,
    AA is playing Wing even though he is a Center
    and with this move, Haas is also being moved.

    Bring in a winger, or am I wrong?? Genuinely curious.


    They need a 3C.
    ConnorMcHellebucyk a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 13 h 54
    #16
    Team caaaannnaaada
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    Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
    I find it funny you used the ROR return then listed a way better return. If you forgot ROR trade was 2 cap dumps, Tage Thompson, 2019 #31 OA and 2021 late 2nd round pick. Just Bouchard or Broberg is already worth more then that


    First of all Sobotka wasn’t a cap dump at all, he was coming off a career high in goal and a second best point total. Patrick Berglund was still coming off a 23 goal and 17goal (57 games) season just before being include in that trade. So they weren’t cap dump like you seem to suggest. Both have been extremely disappointing bot at the time the trade was made that wasn’t the case. And if you gave a first round pick it could end up the 31st overall or the 3rd overall (Ott via SJ) or 4th overall (Col via OTT) so again at the moment of that trade Buffalo couldn’t know that information. And Bouchard or Broberg have the same value as Thompson had at the moment of that trade, which was a top prospect. Sure that trade today doesn’t look good but at that moment it was a bog Package that Buffalo received. The fact that everyplayers who end up in Buffalo seem to vanish is another story. So again Montreal would be looking at this kind of Package and the only Top Prospect that you have are Bouchard or Broberg so that would start with at least one of them. A players who was averaging 20 goal in the prior 2 season, another depth players and A first and a second round pick. This is what it would take.
    10 mai à 13 h 55
    #17
    Silkysmooth
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    Quoting: CD282
    They need a 3C.


    Well they dont,
    but @Bluetomorrow83 explained it well so i appreciate him
    10 mai à 13 h 55
    #18
    Silkysmooth
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    Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
    Having depth at center is always a good thing.. Danault, just like RNH would be too good to use in a #3C that's why he is playing wing and has looked pretty good there. But it also gives the Oilers a security blanket if there's an injury.

    AA isn't a center his defensive positioning and faceoffs need work before he can move back there


    Thanks man!
    10 mai à 14 h 01
    #19
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    First of all Sobotka wasn’t a cap dump at all, he was coming off a career high in goal and a second best point total. Patrick Berglund was still coming off a 23 goal and 17goal (57 games) season just before being include in that trade. So they weren’t cap dump like you seem to suggest. Both have been extremely disappointing bot at the time the trade was made that wasn’t the case. And if you gave a first round pick it could end up the 31st overall or the 3rd overall (Ott via SJ) or 4th overall (Col via OTT) so again at the moment of that trade Buffalo couldn’t know that information. And Bouchard or Broberg have the same value as Thompson had at the moment of that trade, which was a top prospect. Sure that trade today doesn’t look good but at that moment it was a bog Package that Buffalo received. The fact that everyplayers who end up in Buffalo seem to vanish is another story. So again Montreal would be looking at this kind of Package and the only Top Prospect that you have are Bouchard or Broberg so that would start with at least one of them. A players who was averaging 20 goal in the prior 2 season, another depth players and A first and a second round pick. This is what it would take.


    Actually the pick had top 10 protection, and there's zero chance Tage Thompson has ever had value near Bouchard or Broberg if you believe that I don't even know what to say
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    10 mai à 14 h 25
    #20
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    Well they dont,
    but @Bluetomorrow83 explained it well so i appreciate him


    But they do, and @Bluetomorrow83 didn't say they didn't. Re-read what he wrote.
    10 mai à 14 h 40
    #21
    Silkysmooth
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    Quoting: CD282
    But they do, and @Bluetomorrow83 didn't say they didn't. Re-read what he wrote.


    I read what he wrote, and agreed.

    I just dont care what you ahve to say. You were rude to me in the past, and your response here of "They need a 3C" is not helpful.

    Please leave me alone.
    10 mai à 14 h 45
    #22
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    I read what he wrote, and agreed.

    I just dont care what you ahve to say. You were rude to me in the past, and your response here of "They need a 3C" is not helpful.

    Please leave me alone.


    The Edmonton Oilers need a 3C. That's just a fact that like 90% of Oilers fans agree with. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings.
    10 mai à 14 h 45
    #23
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    I read what he wrote, and agreed.

    I just dont care what you ahve to say. You were rude to me in the past, and your response here of "They need a 3C" is not helpful.

    Please leave me alone.


    How is it not helpful?

    They do need a 3C

    If you’re objecting to rudeness you haven’t been the nicest to people in the past either.

    Look at my Boston 31 in 31 AGM for an example
    CD282 a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 14 h 46
    #24
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    Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
    How is it not helpful?

    They do need a 3C

    If you’re objecting to rudeness you haven’t been the nicest to people in the past either.

    Look at my Boston 31 in 31 AGM for an example


    Look at practically every comment the guy makes. Rudeness personified.
    ConnorMcHellebucyk a aimé ceci.
    10 mai à 14 h 47
    #25
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    Quoting: CD282
    Look at practically every comment the guy makes. Rudeness personified.


    Yup
     
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