If both leafs and panthers shake it up

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Créé par: leafs101

Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 4 avr. 2020

Publié: 4 avr. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

could up the Toronto pick in FLA traded if needed, but my rationale was prospect (tippet) plus middle 6 forward (vatrano) for Muzzin, and then ekblad and a first for Marner. Tippet might be worth more than I think though, I'm not sure. Would only happen if the panthers don't make the playoffs for more years, Toronto isn't playoff successful, both teams want to change it up. Panthers would make ensuing moves to shore up the D, and Toronto would do the same with the offence. All the CBJ fans talk about how bad Murray is, so I figured I'd sign him to a one year deal where he could prove himself, try to make it in the top 6 out of camp, and if not, shine when injuries come on so that he can be flipped for something decent or else held on to as depth and then he'd get more money as a UFA. I think georgiev could prove to be a solid starter, and Campbell is good enough to provide support and take much of the load off of his shoulders.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Dermott, Travis	3	2 000 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya	3	2 250 000 $
Georgiev, Alexandar	3	3 500 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Hyman, Zach	6	4 750 000 $
Gallagher, Brendan	6	6 750 000 $
Bozak, Tyler	2	2 000 000 $
Clifford, Kyle	3	1 600 000 $
Murray, Ryan	1	2 750 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Ekblad, Aaron
Tippett, Owen
Vatrano, Frank
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (FLA)

FLA

Marner, Mitchell
Muzzin, Jake
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)

TOR

Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]

NYR

Johnsson, Andreas
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (TOR)

TOR

Mayfield, Scott

NYI

Vatrano, Frank
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	85 500 000 $	85 370 116 $	0 $	1 250 000 $	129 884 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 7	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 3	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 3
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 3	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 4	Gallagher, Brendan 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 6
Mikheyev, Ilya 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Clifford, Kyle 1 600 000 $1 600 000 $ AG UFA - 1		Tippett, Owen 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG UFA - 1
	Bozak, Tyler 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Ekblad, Aaron 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Georgiev, Alexandar 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Mayfield, Scott 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) DD RFA - 1
Dermott, Travis 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Murray, Ryan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2
Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Robertson, N.		Tavares, J.		Nylander, W.
	Rielly, M.		Matthews, A.

Avantage numérique 2
Gallagher, B.		Kerfoot, A.		Kapanen, K.
	Ekblad, A.		Sandin, R.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Bozak, T.	Hyman, Z.
	Rielly, M.	Ekblad, A.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Gallagher, B.	Kapanen, K.
	Sandin, R.	Mayfield, S.

4 avr. 2020 à 11 h 41

Stones6160

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I’m just gonna let the others speak for themselves on how this is not good

4 avr. 2020 à 11 h 42

AmericanSniper

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Gally would never sign with the Leafs haha

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4 avr. 2020 à 11 h 46

Sagecoll

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tbh swap Johnsson with Kapanen or Mikheyev and it works. There's a reason almost all Leaf fans proposals involve getting rid of Johnsson...

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4 avr. 2020 à 12 h 9

drewjenkins

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Quoting: Sagecoll

tbh swap Johnsson with Kapanen or Mikheyev and it works. There's a reason almost all Leaf fans proposals involve getting rid of Johnsson...

What's that reason tips?

4 avr. 2020 à 12 h 19

swinny

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Quoting: Sagecoll

tbh swap Johnsson with Kapanen or Mikheyev and it works. There's a reason almost all Leaf fans proposals involve getting rid of Johnsson...

Because most Leafs fans recognize that the LW organizationally is deeper than RW. That would be an awefully good reason.

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4 avr. 2020 à 12 h 32

leafs101

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: AmericanSniper

Gally would never sign with the Leafs haha

I know, but I just really like him. His spot could be replaced by a variety of UFAs of similar value if needed

4 avr. 2020 à 12 h 34

Sagecoll

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Quoting: swinny

Because most Leafs fans recognize that the LW organizationally is deeper than RW. That would be an awefully good reason.

or that he turns into a negative impact player offensively without Matthews...

4 avr. 2020 à 12 h 37

leafs101

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Quoting: Sagecoll

or that he turns into a negative impact player offensively without Matthews...

when he's not playing with Matthews he's essentially playing with the 3/4 lines. If he's playing top 6 he's admittedly much better

4 avr. 2020 à 12 h 44

Sagecoll

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Quoting: leafs101

when he's not playing with Matthews he's essentially playing with the 3/4 lines. If he's playing top 6 he's admittedly much better

right...and actual positive impact play drivers have a positive impact even on the 3rd and 4th lines.

Mikhayev with 3rd/4th liners is a LOT better than Johnsson with 3rd/4th liners.

And if Johnsson is a 40ish point player with almost exclusively playing with the top line (he's spent about 75% of his entire career playing with either Matthews/Marner/Nylander) then it's not ridiculous to say that he's a 20ish point player if he was stapled to the bottom 6...

4 avr. 2020 à 13 h 19

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leafs101

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Quoting: Sagecoll

keep in mind though he's only played like one season. Injured for half of this year and played his entire rookie season alongside Matthews, so the sample size for him playing with somebody else can't be all that big. And its not unreasonable to expect that as a rookie, he wasn't necessarily the driver of play, but he's a very good complimentary piece. This year was tough for him because he was on and off injury, but never played in the top 6 and still had 8g/21pts in 43 games

4 avr. 2020 à 13 h 41

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JaredOfLondon

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Wow georgiev to the leafs will never die, will it?

4 avr. 2020 à 13 h 42

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Sagecoll

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Quoting: leafs101

he's 25....typical NHL aging curve peak for a forward is 24. Perhaps referring to him as a "rookie" is the issue here. In order to be as you say a "good complimentary piece" we should be able to show that Matthews' play is improving with Johnsson's presence. But the on-ice results don't actually show that. Matthews' play is quite literally unchanged with Johnsson vs. without him.

When you have a player who is not improving the play of his linemates and whose play drops significantly depending on the quality of teammates around him, that's called being a "passenger".

Passengers don't have a ton of value, since they can't self generate a ton of production, they need other people.

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4 avr. 2020 à 13 h 48

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gmurrayt

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Johnsson is a good 3rd liner when healthy. His cap hit is a little high for a 3rd liner, he is undersized, and he is coming off a serious injury. All things the devalue his worth. On top of that, Toronto is in a cap crunch in a year that likely will not have a cap increase. His current worth in a trade is not worth a lot. Teams that may see value in him are Stanley cup contenders looking to strengthen their bottom 6, but likely cannot afford his cap, teams that have cap space for him are in a rebuild stage and are not interested in giving up picks for a 3rd liner. The reality is Toronto will likely be hard pressed to find a trade partner for him, and if they do, I suspect most maple leaf fans will be very disappointed in the return.

4 avr. 2020 à 13 h 49

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Kosterjr

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Panthers laugh and hang up

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