ducks should accept

Seems like an overpay to get just two years of Manson...who really isn't that special now.

Once again how does a LD in Dermott benefit Anaheim? Yeah maybe he can play RD but he's still a downgrade compare to Manson. No reason for Murray to accept that deal. You want Manson be prepared to pay up the nose for him.

Awful. Manson = Liljegren + 1st and keep adding. RW and LD aren't a need for us. We're not actively shopping Manson and he's going to cost a lot to pry away from ANA.

Plenty of other teams beat this offer.

Just out of interest, who do you think you're netting that is better than Manson for KK + Dermot?

I agree but to some value of having him right now makes it higher. I still make the deal if I think I can resign him to a decent extension like Muzzin

Its about asset management and timing. You have 3-6 more years of KK getting better vs possibly o ly 2 years of a likely peaked Manson. Dermott is also a decent player just never got back to himself after the injury last season

I have no interest in trading for Manson. If we cant trade for a younger D with a good amount of team control left on his deal i would rather go after a stopgap player and take a swing at Hamilton when he goes UFA the year after next.

Do you think the D gets better if Dermott is included in any deal for a top RHD? I struggle to say yes because overall, Leafs got guys who struggle in that of the ice.

Lol you are going to be so disappointed if Manson gets traded. Just out to lunch

Manson has a NTC/NMC so "other teams" won't always factor in.
Also this answer is so annoying where you bust in and just assuming you are smarter than everyone else. Just so you can have the knowledge for the next time you make yourself look stupid
Value wise
Kapanen =Liljegren
Dermott is not far off both.
Toronto doesn't have their 1st round pick (which I don't see the ducks having much interest in vs established young players because it will be a late 1st from any team Manson would waive to go to)
So I would like to know the other teams you believe would smoke this offer.

The benefit is getting two younger pieces cost controlled vs two years of a 30 year old UFA when your team is garbage. Do you even know hockey?

josh Manson STARTS with Auston Matthews. The leafs bias is getting to your head if you think otherwise.

I'd Say Damon Severson out of NJ , that package of Kapenen and Dermott certainly gets that conversation going, Severson is younger signed longer and is already better than Manson

Dumbest post of the day award right here
Almost lock for the dumbest of the week and in very serious contention for dumbest post of the month.
We will keep you posted

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KK isn’t a developing player anymore and likely won’t get better. He certainly won’t continue improving for the next 3-6 years. He’s just entering his prime years and his goal totals have dropped this year too.

No interest in Dermot as we have Lindholm and Fowler at LD.



Agree that this move would be best for TOR. Manson is gonna be too expensive (I’m talking Liljegren + 1st +, not KK + Dermot) and won’t solve your problems.



He won’t be traded without an overpay. That’s going to be Liljegren (Manson replacement) + 1st (security in case Liljegren doesn’t pan out) +. He’s highly valued by the organisation and a leader in the locker room. I can’t remember the exact quote from TSN, but something about “you don’t love your wife more than ANA loves Manson”.



That’s going to be price or something around that. It’s overpay, but that’s why it is highly-likely Manson won’t be traded because. He’s going to be too expensive for what he brings. Fine by me. I’d prefer him to stay in ANA.



Sarcasm? Manson price is high because he’s loved by the organisation and he’s a leader. No need to move him for less either. Having said that, the price isn’t Matthews. Liljegren + 1st +, which, for me, doesn’t sniff a fair Matthews bid.



Severson? Fill your boots if you think he’s better than Manson.

Cool not going to happen

quite obviously for Matthews sarcasm yes. And think about it this way: liljegren is a recent first rounder, so lets say his value is a first round pick. I'm not paying two first rounders, plus something else, for him. You can argue that he's worth it, and you're entitled to that opinion, but I just wouldn't give that much up for him.

Lol what a homer bunch of statements. In two seasons when he walks and the ducks are crap both years (again) they would have lost him for nothing. Great asset management.

You and nobody in the entire NHL for two years of a 30 year old almost at UFA

And he'd walk why? He loves ANA just as much as ANA loves Manson. His father is also good friends with our GM and his wife is a Cali girl. Makes no sense. You're forgetting that hockey players have lives beyond hockey and families to think about. Nice try though! Now go and untwist those knickers you're wearing.

Because Anaheim has a history of not giving out longer contracts to players like him. Also who wants to sign for a garbage team who has no end in sight lol

Literally just gave Henrique a 5 year deal, Silf a 5 year deal, Fowler is signed to a 6 year deal. All those contracts will take them well into their 30s. Wtf are you talking about? You're clearly so butt-hurt you can't think straight.

Lol... says the TOR fan whose team missed the playoffs 9 out 10 year, went through a rebuild (where they got lucky in the lottery and drafted Matthews), and still gets bounced every year in the 1st round of the playoffs. Your team is trash. They might not even make the playoffs this year and you haven't even got a 1st round pick or the cap space to make the team better... hahahahaha!! Hence the trash offers of KK + Dermot for minute munching top 4 D-men that can actually defend.

Beat part about this is you ripping another team when your team is a bottom feeder, even with one of the beat goalies in the world. Pathetic