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Lets say muzz gets suspended

Créé par: SammyT_51
Date de création initiale: 22 déc. 2019
Publié: 22 déc. 2019
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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for defending himself too hard. Lets assume he is gone for 2/3 games..
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22 déc. 2019 à 8 h 17
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You know the dops is bad when there is statistical evidence of bias in the way they hand out suspensions. Leafs are the least suspended against team in the league and the last (and only) suspension of the Parros era was Andrew ferrence in 2013 for an elbow on GRABO!

So yeah I fully expect muzz to get 3 and aa to not even get a call even though aa was clear intent to injure while muzz was clearly not. Dops is a joke. They don't care about consitancy, they don't care about player safety (overall number of yearly suspensions went down since shanny left), and they are biased against Toronto and MTL.

Amazing the NHL seems okay with this
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22 déc. 2019 à 8 h 28
#2
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Utter BS if he would even get a hearing.....
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22 déc. 2019 à 8 h 37
#3
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Suspended? He just got invited to WrestleMania.
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22 déc. 2019 à 9 h 1
#4
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Quoting: Goulet
Suspended? He just got invited to WrestleMania.


Mantha poked him first and then Mantha actually had leverage in the initial head lock. I'm surprised that Muzzin could leverage himself and get the take down of the bigger Mantha.
How did Leafs get a double minor on that play and Mantha only a minor? Dermot was right, terrible officiating on the penalties allocation.
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22 déc. 2019 à 9 h 48
#5
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If Muzzin gets suspended there should be a full scale investigation into the corrupt state of the D.O.P.S. It has been broken for years and there judgments are random and arbitrary. I'm not just saying that because I am a Leafs fan, I am saying it because the system is flawed. That was an absolute garbage display of refereeing last night and it seems to be accepted as status quo. It is quite frankly a joke.
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22 déc. 2019 à 10 h 30
#6
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My beer league refs are generally better than last night's , Muzz shouldn't even get a phone call, AA should at least get fined, game is all but done and he runs a guy? Hey AA your minus 407 for a reason
22 déc. 2019 à 11 h 26
#7
Matthew Bailey
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AA deserves a fine, but in the grand scheme of things nothing really came out of his. Muzzin, on the other hand, grabbed Mantha's face, slew footed him and slammed him to the ice with the head and neck being the main point of contact, and there was a serious injury resulting from the play. Muzzin 100% deserves a suspension, and anyone who says otherwise is a bias Leafs fan. Everyone that is neither a Red Wings or Leafs fan that has commented on this agrees. Sorry Leafs podcaster with 700 twitter followers that has "general hockey talk" in your bio, you dont count. I understand Mantha started it, and had Muzzin in a headlock. Hockey players get put in headlocks every night, and yet nobody else get slew footed and slammed to the ice. Dirty play, hope he gets suspended as long as Mantha is concussed.
22 déc. 2019 à 11 h 46
#8
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Just because Mantha started it doesn't excuse him taking Mantha's legs out and driving his head into the ice.

I will say what Athanasiou did was much worse, and definitely deserving of a lengthy suspension.
22 déc. 2019 à 11 h 56
#9
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Just because Mantha started it doesn't excuse him taking Mantha's legs out and driving his head into the ice.

I will say what Athanasiou did was much worse, and definitely deserving of a lengthy suspension.


Mantha also had him in headlock and punched him in the face with gloves on couple of times prior to Muzzin flipping out.
22 déc. 2019 à 12 h 18
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Mantha also had him in headlock and punched him in the face with gloves on couple of times prior to Muzzin flipping out.


And he got a penalty for it. That doesn't justify what Muzzin did. What Muzzin did was unbelievably dangerous.

If he took exception to what Mantha did, then by all means drop the gloves, but leave the piledrivers for the Undertaker.
22 déc. 2019 à 13 h 9
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Modifié 22 déc. 2019 à 13 h 40
Quoting: wingss
AA deserves a fine, but in the grand scheme of things nothing really came out of his. Muzzin, on the other hand, grabbed Mantha's face, slew footed him and slammed him to the ice with the head and neck being the main point of contact, and there was a serious injury resulting from the play. Muzzin 100% deserves a suspension, and anyone who says otherwise is a bias Leafs fan. Everyone that is neither a Red Wings or Leafs fan that has commented on this agrees. Sorry Leafs podcaster with 700 twitter followers that has "general hockey talk" in your bio, you dont count. I understand Mantha started it, and had Muzzin in a headlock. Hockey players get put in headlocks every night, and yet nobody else get slew footed and slammed to the ice. Dirty play, hope he gets suspended as long as Mantha is concussed.


Did he winked into a camera also inbetween ? I mean comeon....slew footed him and point his neck into the ice....you kids need to stop playing Tekken 5 on your PS.....they were in a fckn clinch, Mantha was all over him and if Muzzin is able to throw a bigger guy away from him like a feather....you really need to start watching art skating.....
22 déc. 2019 à 15 h 50
#12
Matthew Bailey
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Quoting: Laudan
Did he winked into a camera also inbetween ? I mean comeon....slew footed him and point his neck into the ice....you kids need to stop playing Tekken 5 on your PS.....they were in a fckn clinch, Mantha was all over him and if Muzzin is able to throw a bigger guy away from him like a feather....you really need to start watching art skating.....


I'll link you a video if you want
25 déc. 2019 à 9 h 8
#13
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Quoting: Random2152
You know the dops is bad when there is statistical evidence of bias in the way they hand out suspensions. Leafs are the least suspended against team in the league and the last (and only) suspension of the Parros era was Andrew ferrence in 2013 for an elbow on GRABO!

So yeah I fully expect muzz to get 3 and aa to not even get a call even though aa was clear intent to injure while muzz was clearly not. Dops is a joke. They don't care about consitancy, they don't care about player safety (overall number of yearly suspensions went down since shanny left), and they are biased against Toronto and MTL.

Amazing the NHL seems okay with this


LOL, god leaf fans over react and think the world is against them.
25 déc. 2019 à 10 h 0
#14
Just Keep Swimming
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
LOL, god leaf fans over react and think the world is against them.


Dude. There is actual evidence. And as we all know leafs fans are always talking about how hard the Habs have it. This isn't just a 'it seems like'. It is almost like I wrote the previous comment in a way to show that, but you seem illiterate so il post you a picture.

Parros' career was ended by a leaf and he has proceeded to suspend leafs more and suspend against leafs far less than other teams.


Read this thread: or don't and keep you blinders on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/status/1207371905667391489
25 déc. 2019 à 17 h 40
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Quoting: Random2152
Dude. There is actual evidence. And as we all know leafs fans are always talking about how hard the Habs have it. This isn't just a 'it seems like'. It is almost like I wrote the previous comment in a way to show that, but you seem illiterate so il post you a picture.

Parros' career was ended by a leaf and he has proceeded to suspend leafs more and suspend against leafs far less than other teams.


Read this thread: or don't and keep you blinders on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/status/1207371905667391489


Oh I forgot the league is against the leafs... Even though the leafs are top 10 minor PIMS... LOL but keep the excuses going to why the leafs arnt succeeding.
25 déc. 2019 à 17 h 41
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Quoting: Random2152
Dude. There is actual evidence. And as we all know leafs fans are always talking about how hard the Habs have it. This isn't just a 'it seems like'. It is almost like I wrote the previous comment in a way to show that, but you seem illiterate so il post you a picture.

Parros' career was ended by a leaf and he has proceeded to suspend leafs more and suspend against leafs far less than other teams.


Read this thread: or don't and keep you blinders on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/status/1207371905667391489


And if the league does hate the leafs... Why didnt Muzzin get suspended like you predicted?
25 déc. 2019 à 18 h 5
#17
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
Oh I forgot the league is against the leafs... Even though the leafs are top 10 minor PIMS... LOL but keep the excuses going to why the leafs arnt succeeding.


Quoting: CBJ4CUP
And if the league does hate the leafs... Why didnt Muzzin get suspended like you predicted?


You didn't actually read it did you?
25 déc. 2019 à 22 h 4
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Quoting: Random2152
You didn't actually read it did you?


I did lmao.. youre an absolute clown who only watches the Leafs and the leafs only
25 déc. 2019 à 22 h 36
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
I did lmao.. youre an absolute clown who only watches the Leafs and the leafs only


So no, you didn't then. Unless you think statistical evidence is being biased.
31 déc. 2019 à 19 h 8
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Quoting: Random2152
So no, you didn't then. Unless you think statistical evidence is being biased.


Show me every dirty hit on the leafs where it got suspended...

You legit are so ****ing bias it hurts and cry after every play, you are the typical leaf fan every other fan base hates
31 déc. 2019 à 19 h 11
#21
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
Show me every dirty hit on the leafs where it got suspended...

You legit are so ****ing bias it hurts and cry after every play, you are the typical leaf fan every other fan base hates


I think you mean every dirty hit that didn't get suspended?

Well recently the Okposo hit, debrusk's crap from game 2 just off the top of my head, but read the thread I linked. It literally has the numbers that prove it. You refuse to read it and call me biased?!?! I'm doing all the work for you and even then you are either too lazy or too stupid to look for yourself.
1 janv. 2020 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: Random2152
I think you mean every dirty hit that didn't get suspended?

Well recently the Okposo hit, debrusk's crap from game 2 just off the top of my head, but read the thread I linked. It literally has the numbers that prove it. You refuse to read it and call me biased?!?! I'm doing all the work for you and even then you are either too lazy or too stupid to look for yourself.


Buddy there is no numbers to back up dirty hits.... Its not black and white brother every hit is different sorry your so butt hurt. As if suspensions on another team has any effect on the leafs anyways in the Regular season
1 janv. 2020 à 16 h 18
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
Buddy there is no numbers to back up dirty hits.... Its not black and white brother every hit is different sorry your so butt hurt. As if suspensions on another team has any effect on the leafs anyways in the Regular season


You are honestly hopeless...
2 janv. 2020 à 11 h 51
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Quoting: Random2152
You are honestly hopeless...


League hates the leafs, yet they won the Draft lottery... I guess you just like picking and choosing when the league doesnt want the leafs to succeed. Next youre gonna complain how the leafs dont get enough powerplays.
2 janv. 2020 à 12 h 36
#25
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
League hates the leafs, yet they won the Draft lottery... I guess you just like picking and choosing when the league doesnt want the leafs to succeed. Next youre gonna complain how the leafs dont get enough powerplays.


Funny you mention that. It is a league wide problem. PPs and PKs are correlated 1:1. That means that refs aren't calling the game, but are rather managing it. It means that a dirty team will get away with all sorts of crap if they are playing a clean team who doesn't take penalties because refs only call penalties if they are close to even. The leafs are a clean team, so yes they don't get enough pp calls. There are plenty of other teams in the same category.

Again, you are just showing your hate for the leafs here. There are actual problems with the league I am bringing up and you are trying to just wave them away.
 
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