Trevor Moore on the top line? Never gonna happen

you really don't think at some point in the next two years he won't become good enough to fill that Hyman role? he did it pretty damn well last night...

ok

He did it last night. And he did it really well. It's not just about the most skilled players, but about chemistry and style of play.

I personally think he's already good enough.

"We're not getting [JT] And anyone who thinks we are is delusional."

I don't know if I'm fully convinced for right now only because its such a small sample size but if he can consistently play well all year and step up when he gets these opportunities due to injuries he might give management enough confidence to trade Hyman and let Moore fill his role for cheaper

Like you opening statement about Hall and Pietrangelo. Of course it's possible if the Leaf get rid of lots of cap in trades, but how does that really improve the team?

The top three LWers....Hyman makes four seems to all interchangeable to play on the top two lines or the bottom two lines.

I mean it's probably not gonna happen but we can hope for and make up these scenarios... but anything is possible

Oh absolutely. But to say we don't have a shot is absurd.

facts

Detroit isn't giving a 2nd for a LW coming off of ACL surgery. They need D which is the same thing Toronto needs considering the have 1 defenseman signed for next season and the rest are UFAs.

I agree if you go out and spend on a free agent I think it would be a defenseman would be the smart choice.

When JT was a free agent, we thought he wouldn't want to come. He did. It's a different situation now. Now, even if Pietrangelo wants to come here, there simply isn't enough cap space.

He skated despite his ACL injury in the playoffs, and he's a 20 goal scorer who has chemistry (loads of it) with Larkin.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1447324
I did this with an extremely conservative cap. NHL is talking 84.5 WITHOUT NHLPA inflator (to kill escrow). I did it in 82.5.

A) 20-man roster is a situation no team can be in.
B) Mikheyev isn't signed there, and he's definitely someone who should come back.

I know it is a 20 man roster. I did it with a cap that is far smaller than projected. That was kind of the point and you missed it.
Mik is like Hyman and Moore. I like Mik but if he asks for more than Hyman we can move him for some draft capital or prospects.

The cap won't go up that high, I think it was CJ a little while back who said the cap could increase very little or even stay the same next season, 84.5 is impossible in my opinion.
We're already losing Hyman, don't want to lose another top-9 forward.

In any case, if there was 9 million in space, I'd rather bring back Muzzin and sign Hamonic for that price, or sign Barrie for say 7 million and bring in Demelo or even Hainsey for that last 2 million. 2 solid players for the price of one good player, it's already a top heavy team so it's ok to lose a bit of star power (Pietrangelo) for a strong supporting cast. On top of that, Pietrangelo turns 30 in January and you don't want to commit another high salary to a player whose best years, considering the normal aging curve in the NHL, are probably behind him.

Hyman is a very good player it would be nice to have him. With Helm, Neilson and Abdelkader on almost un-tradable contracts and taking time from prospects adding another forward with $5.3M cap hit isn't the right move IMO but the Wings don't consult with me before making trades.

Hyman doesn't have a 5.3 million cap hit..? He makes 2.25 for 1 more year after this, probably will command around 3 million for his next contract

Bettman literally said like 2 weeks ago that they were looking at a 84.5 cap. The lower numbers specified months ago are still double the increase that I had there.

We have another year of Hyman, and Moore can take over for him by then anyway. I'd like to keep Mik, but it is a luxury. If he kills it (is better than Hyman) sign him for 3 mil and move Hyman. It ultimately isn't a huge deal which one stays if you have to chose.

I intentionally signed Pietro for 5 years in my AGM, I wouldn't go any longer precisely due to that ageing curve, but remember, the cap is going to jump in 2 years time. He will be worth it for a MINIMUM of 3-4 years, and if he is only worth 6 Mil those last 1-2 it wont be a huge deal.

Also, Top heavy and cheap depth is the way to go. It has been an analytic theory for years that it is the most optimal usage of cap and Doobie is doing it. I think he will continue to do so.

Hello?? Whatever line Matthew's is on is the top line. Trade hyman.moore plays 3rd line lw. Mikeyev plays on 2nd line with tavares and marner