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so then, werenski, mcavoy, literally EVERY other RFA other than marner should fire and shoot their agents? if anything dont you think dubas was the idiot in the room? not everyone elses agents?

It was a team-friendly deal for sure, but it was still the largest one ever signed in the cap era. I think people are overreacting a little bit.

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Its the Tampa advantage. It is what it is....Its an advantage and they're allowed to use it.

I do however think anyone who knowingly praises it and says a similar player on another team is being overpaid, is rich.

Not all teams have the same luxuries.

I don’t get the big deal. It’s a typical bridge contract in a tax free state. Players bet on themselves by signing the bridge deals, this isn’t a new concept.

Points take home money is 1 mill less than marner

There’s a pretty big difference between Brayden Point and Werenski.

Taxes matter y’all

Not every team is in as desirable and cheap a location as Tampa and it's understandable that some places need to pay players more to get contracts, but that doesn't mean Matthews and Marner aren't overpaid.

im just listing the other RFA's but one 90 point year and hes hot stuff? cant wait till all these young forwards regress a little bit and dont put up the same seasons they just had.

Points agent is going to have a hard time convincing anyone to work with him after this.

Well it also really depends on a couple of factors. Does anyone think Marner would have signed the same contract Point did, adjusted for the tangible aspects? I don't think so. So then why would Marner assume he can get what he got but Point wouldn't do the same?

I would say this though, if Marner accepted the exact same contract Point did but adjusted for this intangible combo of weather/tax/team buy-in/quality/etc, how much would it be? Maybe 7.5-8M right? I think as you start tacking on years to that contract, the final number comes eerily close to what he is at now and more than likely is a little lower granted but not drastically lower.

Its hard to put an exact number on that variable but lets assume just for fun its an exact 10% "Tampa" factor. (Players on average want to be paid 10% more than what an equivalent in Tampa would settle for.)

Assuming every year on Point's contract brings up his AAV by 1M give or take so if he is willing to sign 3 years for 6.75, 4 years for 7.75, etc, the new prorated amount for Marner using this logic would 10.73M.... its less than current but not a huge amount less.

Regardless it comes down to that variable factor that no one can agree on. I do feel though that if before any RFA's signed this year, Point was offered 10Mx6 years, no one would have batted an eye in terms of it not being a fair offer for him.

9M QO virtually guarantees a 10M plus contact after 2 years.. Tampa will pay more than if they did an 8 by 10M deal now. SO I actually see both sides losing here .. Point for injury and to lesser extent performance risk while Tampa pays more on 2nd contract which could be 10M to 12M AAV ..all because of Gourde and the shrimp NTCs

Lol, it has nothing to do with, "Gourde and the shrimps," which all signed fair deals at the time of signing. Gourde was maybe slightly overpaid but the contracts were fair on the whole. The NTC's are unf, but that's the price required to have some of these guys sign for less than what they could likely have received elsewhere. Tampa has never given the 8 year deal following a player's ELC, they weren't going to start with Point. If he has the same level of play the.next couple of years, great. Lock him up to a 10 or 10.5x8 deal when Tampa will have the cap flexibility and when the cap will be higher. It's not a loss for both sides in the slightest, for those who understand how Tampa handles their contracts.

Welcome Disneylander .. all skies are blue in Tampa and everything is awesome in Lego Land .. until the shrimps and Stamkos crap the bed in playoffs AGAIN .. almost fell off my chair on your comment the shrimps contract were below market .. jeesh overplaying role players with NTCs .. most NTCs in NHL by far .. take your head out of your .. Point contract is first casualty of shrimps .. one of RFAs next year will be next ..

Why are you always so angry. We got a steal of a deal, you should be happy you dufus

Ah Bah Humbug .. you should see me at a Xmas party .. LOL .. but Point hip injury more than I had heard explains alot