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Marner to CGY - reunites with Tkachuck

Créé par: BeanCountingCowboy
Équipe: 2019-20 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 20 août 2019
Publié: 20 août 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Question for everyone. Are the Flames even a better team after losing Hanifin, Frolik and Bennett? Both big contracts for the RFA's are at values higher and term shorter than Evolving Wild's contract projections, as I think they are a little shy of reality with the RFA craziness going on.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1875 000 $
68 000 000 $
59 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Bennett, Sam
  2. Emilio Pettersen, Mathias [Liste de réserve]
  3. Frolík, Michael (1 000 000 $ retained)
  4. Hanifin, Noah
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (STL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de CGY
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Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de STL
Logo de CGY
2021
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2022
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $76 224 209 $0 $322 500 $5 275 791 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 5
9 200 000 $9 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
875 000 $875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 650 400 $4 650 400 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 857 143 $3 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
730 833 $730 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
755 833 $755 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
735 000 $735 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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20 août 2019 à 21 h 13
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Hanfin, Frolik & Bennett don't even equal Marner's 3/4 so yes they're better
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20 août 2019 à 21 h 14
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Both teams say no, Flames loose their depth and Leafs loose their best playmaker
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20 août 2019 à 21 h 15
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Hanfin, Frolik & Bennett don't even equal Marner's 3/4 so yes they're better


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Both teams say no, Flames loose their depth and Leafs loose their best playmaker


Also, if he would sign for that it would already be done.
20 août 2019 à 21 h 17
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Also, if he would sign for that it would already be done.


that's not true. No ones signing because no GM wants to be the one to set the market for everyone else, and the RFA's dont want to be the one to get bent over
20 août 2019 à 21 h 20
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
that's not true. No ones signing because no GM wants to be the one to set the market for everyone else, and the RFA's dont want to be the one to get bent over


Let me put it this way if he would sign for that he wouldn't get traded.
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20 août 2019 à 21 h 30
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Hanfin, Frolik & Bennett don't even equal Marner's 3/4 so yes they're better


Maybe not if you add up all the points... but you can't compare D-men to forwards by points. Hanifin is a 22 year old top 4 D locked in with term under $5 mil with over 300 games of NHL experience. That's worth something
20 août 2019 à 21 h 44
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Lindholm,Bennet, 1st in 2020 , and 1st in 2021 (or Dube contract)
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Marner (who if CGY offersheet will cost them four 1st rounders )

TML gets a older but skilled RW back in the deal in Lindholm , a 3rd line winger in Bennett and either 2 firsts or a first and Dube .
CGY clears enough cap to give CGY an addition 8m cap to sign Tkchuck and Marner giving them 16m roughly making them 1 move from being able to lock up both .

Frolik to CAR makes sense filling the space Ferland left where he can put up 15-17 goals and 30-40 points for scoring depth
grab someone like Fleury who's no longer Waiver Exempt and can be lost for nothing when they waive him in favor of Slavin , Bean and Forsling .
Fleury and a pick should make it worth it for both teams (CAR saves face by not losing Fleury for nothing like MTL did Scherbak )
20 août 2019 à 21 h 46
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Quoting: BeanCountingCowboy
Maybe not if you add up all the points... but you can't compare D-men to forwards by points. Hanifin is a 22 year old top 4 D locked in with term under $5 mil with over 300 games of NHL experience. That's worth something


to a team like MTL looking for a LD just like that absolutely
to TML with no spot for Hanofin in the top 4 thats another story

if you offered them a top 4 RD with the same production and age its a different discussion
but TML doesnt need Hanofin , it needs Lindholm if Marner's moving plain and simple
20 août 2019 à 21 h 55
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Let me put it this way if he would sign for that he wouldn't get traded.


Funny how so many posts have changed. Now we are seeing posts, acknowledging that 11m is too high for "their" team to sign Marner to an offer sheet. But somehow Marner will now take 9m or so, less than what the Leafs are offering and sign with the non Leaf team via a trade.shakes head
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20 août 2019 à 22 h 24
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Quoting: palhal
Funny how so many posts have changed. Now we are seeing posts, acknowledging that 11m is too high for "their" team to sign Marner to an offer sheet. But somehow Marner will now take 9m or so, less than what the Leafs are offering and sign with the non Leaf team via a trade.shakes head


I know eh! Yet they'd call us delusional when we would suggest that he would sign for less.
20 août 2019 à 23 h 3
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Let me put it this way if he would sign for that he wouldn't get traded.


If they don't sign him there are quite a few that willing to give up more to get him.

I think the point Ledge_And_Dairy was trying to make was the could and probably do have a deal in place. But it's probably for an obscene amount money and they are waiting to the last possible moment to go public so other players can't say well Marner got this much.
21 août 2019 à 6 h 33
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Maybe not if you add up all the points... but you can't compare D-men to forwards by points. Hanifin is a 22 year old top 4 D locked in with term under $5 mil with over 300 games of NHL experience. That's worth something


Hanifin is still not en elite dmen. He is top4 at best.
21 août 2019 à 7 h 4
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Be interesting to see how the Flames manage the cap the following season. Half of that 22 (so it's not even a full roster) are either RFA/UFA. The buyouts will still be on the books so they will only have whatever the cap increases by, plus not signing a number of players.
21 août 2019 à 7 h 8
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Funny how so many posts have changed. Now we are seeing posts, acknowledging that 11m is too high for "their" team to sign Marner to an offer sheet. But somehow Marner will now take 9m or so, less than what the Leafs are offering and sign with the non Leaf team via a trade.shakes head


A lot have, yes. Personally I've said all along that the likes of Marner & Rantanen should get no more than 9, and that only on a long term deal, so a lot of ppl would consider me a tight wad. 8.5 - 9 over five should be the max they should expect with Aho's signing having basically set the market. The rest will be whose camp blinks first.
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