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Getting The Leafs Out Of Cap Hell

Créé par: nuxfan
Équipe: 2019-20 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 15 févr. 2019
Publié: 15 févr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
VAN
  1. Marleau, Patrick
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Trade happens on July 2nd, 2019. Marleau waives his NMC to go to Vancouver where he will be bought out and re-signed by the Leafs to a one-year $1,000,000 contract similar to Orpik last season. Vancouver receives a late 2nd round pick as "compensation" for the buyout.
TOR
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1783 000 000 $57 515 212 $0 $4 045 000 $25 484 788 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 366 666 $3 366 666 $
AG
UFA - 2
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4 375 000 $4 375 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
847 500 $847 500 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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697 500 $697 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DG
UFA - 1
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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15 févr. 2019 à 14 h 45
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Stop with the Orpiking Marleau ****, not going to happen
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15 févr. 2019 à 14 h 46
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Quoting: nchest
Stop with the Orpiking Marleau ****, not going to happen


Why not?
15 févr. 2019 à 14 h 46
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Stop with the Orpiking Marleau ****, not going to happen


I also think it would not happen but its realistic thing that can be done if necessary.. why do you think its not going to happen?
15 févr. 2019 à 14 h 49
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Quoting: nuxfan
Why not?


Textbook cap circumvention since Vancouver would get no cap benefit from buying out Marleau. Both teams would get hit with penalties by the league.
15 févr. 2019 à 14 h 51
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League won't allow it. Orpik the league couldn't prove the intent. Washington traded a goalie and a pick with Orpik. He was bought out but not immediately signed by the Caps.

League would step in if the Leafs say Vancouver we are trading you Marleau so you can buy him out for picks and we can re-sign him. Marleau, you waive your NTC and we will resign you after you are bought out. That does not fall under the CBA. If it did then you would see rumor sites and TSN talking about this option. It is not legit and not going to happen. Marleau is a Leaf next year.
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15 févr. 2019 à 15 h 2
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How do we petition CapFriendly to install a fix in the software preventing trades of Patty?
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15 févr. 2019 à 15 h 2
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Orpik was also not in the 35+ category so Colorado was able to buy him out....Marleau's contract is not allowing it. This is why Marleau will not be bought out
15 févr. 2019 à 15 h 10
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Yeah stop Orpiking Marleau!!! He doesn't swing that way!
15 févr. 2019 à 15 h 16
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Quoting: nchest
League won't allow it. Orpik the league couldn't prove the intent. Washington traded a goalie and a pick with Orpik. He was bought out but not immediately signed by the Caps.

League would step in if the Leafs say Vancouver we are trading you Marleau so you can buy him out for picks and we can re-sign him. Marleau, you waive your NTC and we will resign you after you are bought out. That does not fall under the CBA. If it did then you would see rumor sites and TSN talking about this option. It is not legit and not going to happen. Marleau is a Leaf next year.


I do agree it won't happen, but the league can't step in on the leafs doing it and not Washington, the leafs add a nobody prospect and they *can't prove* that's not who they wanted anyways
15 févr. 2019 à 15 h 43
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Just wanted to let you know that the buyout can't happen. The buyout window is from 48 hours after the end of the playoffs until June 30th. Outside of that window the Canucks would have to have an arbitration case awarded to a player that would put them over the cap ceiling and would be allowed to another buyout immediately following the arb hearing since Marleau buyout makes no difference in cap hit because it's 35+ contract (his cap hit would remain the same) Marleau would be ineligible.

So to sum up

Any trade involving Marleau with the intent of a buyout would have to be made prior to June 30th and would mean that any team looking to do this would have to be ok with paying him his bonus money.
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15 févr. 2019 à 15 h 47
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Just wanted to let you know that the buyout can't happen. The buyout window is from 48 hours after the end of the playoffs until June 30th. Outside of that window the Canucks would have to have an arbitration case awarded to a player that would put them over the cap ceiling and would be allowed to another buyout immediately following the arb hearing since Marleau buyout makes no difference in cap hit because it's 35+ contract (his cap hit would remain the same) Marleau would be ineligible.

So to sum up

Any trade involving Marleau with the intent of a buyout would have to be made prior to June 30th and would mean that any team looking to do this would have to be ok with paying him his bonus money.


haha...thank-you...I've been meaning to look into this exact thing but haven't gotten around to it....for everyone else that thinks this is possible...I direct you here: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/201571&post_id=742473
15 févr. 2019 à 15 h 48
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Quoting: Jetman
Orpik was also not in the 35+ category so Colorado was able to buy him out....Marleau's contract is not allowing it. This is why Marleau will not be bought out


can still be bought out but there's no cap savings from it
15 févr. 2019 à 15 h 49
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I also think it would not happen but its realistic thing that can be done if necessary.. why do you think its not going to happen?


Quoting: TheDream_43
I do agree it won't happen, but the league can't step in on the leafs doing it and not Washington, the leafs add a nobody prospect and they *can't prove* that's not who they wanted anyways


Different set of circumstances from Orpik:
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/201571&post_id=742473
15 févr. 2019 à 16 h 3
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can still be bought out but there's no cap savings from it


My point is that if a team trades for Marleau, play him. dont buy him out as you are still stuck with the cap hit
15 févr. 2019 à 16 h 10
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My point is that if a team trades for Marleau, play him. dont buy him out as you are still stuck with the cap hit


Yes...that is probably what would happen if the teams + Marleau weren't colluding to circumvent the cap...and then...would Marleau ever agree to waive his NMC if it meant not playing in Toronto?
15 févr. 2019 à 16 h 14
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Yes...that is probably what would happen if the teams + Marleau weren't colluding to circumvent the cap...and then...would Marleau ever agree to waive his NMC if it meant not playing in Toronto?


exactly...its time for everyone to face the facts...Marleau is staying in TO
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16 févr. 2019 à 0 h 28
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Also, in addition to everything else stated here... I was not aware that the Canucks were in the business of helping the Leafs better?

Which team is going to be so gracious to get us out of the Eriksson, Sutter and Gudbranson contracts?
 
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