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Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 21 h 20
Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 20 h 41
Sujet: Nurse and Campbell
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>First off good god no!
No point in retention right now more focus is on the return and both those guys would cost Edmonton 2 of their best prospects 2 1sts and 2 3rds for Future Considerations.
Anything less and it’s just not worth the sacrifice for the sharks, and not sure it’s worth it to the Oilers to give up that much.</div></div>

I think you’re being extremely uncharitable to Nurse. With the retention down to $6.5M his contract is much closer to what he brings. It would be during his peak years, and would add a solid #2/3 D to the defensive unit and help solidify a group that needs an overhaul. There is still work to be done on the right side, but this is a positive move.

Also there’s no way Edmonton could even pay the cost of what it would take to move on from both players without some retention.

Personally, I view this as a win for both franchises. Edmonton gets a great deal more cap flexibility and the Sharks add a long term piece to the blue line and two high quality draft assets.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 20 h 26
Sujet: Realistic Draft Day
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MattyIce91</b></div><div>Would you also take Pageau if he was added to the package at full cap hit?</div></div>

No. There would have to be more pick(s) coming back.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>Sharks take that and run lol</div></div>

As a Sharks fan Bolduc and Whalstrom aren’t moving the needle for me. I’d have to be sold on why we need these guys thrown in and why I wouldn’t expect them to be more of the bottom of the lineup / AHL tweeners the Sharks already have a ton of. I’m not saying that’s what they are, just that beyond their draft pedigree I’m not seeing anything that jumps out as them being helpful to the rebuild. OP, care to give a brief scouting report?
Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 2 h 42
Sujet: GMKA eye deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharksdoee</b></div><div>Bennett is crucial to this new Panthers identity, but this package might/should be plenty of an overpay to make FLA accept.

SJ's not taking on 9m x 3 years unless there's a 1st attached ('24 pick is too high to trade to dump a contract but '25/'26 when there's a solid chance of being a playoff team) or a 2nd+ whatever prospect to make it equivalent value.</div></div>

I’m pretty sure Skinner is the antithesis of the type of player Grier would target, I don’t think he’d be assigning much value to what Skinner brings on the ice - it’d be a pure cap dump valuation. At $27M in total cap relief, I suspect it would take much more than a fourth to make this work. It’d likely cost a first and a very good prospect; and even then I’m not sure the Sharks want to tie up that much cap for three seasons.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 2 h 23
Sujet: Sharks taking cap dump
While I like where the thinking is coming from, I just don’t see how the value adds up for the Sharks. They are taking on over $50M in cap relief and only adding a grand total of 2 top-60 picks, one of which they have to wait a year for. 3rd rounders are of limited value; go look up all the players the Sharks have drafted in the 3rd and how many NHL games they’ve played.

Other than catching a few good seasons from Lee I don’t see how either of the defense or offensive units are significantly better than if the Sharks stood pat. These moves do not make the team materially more competitive.

If Grier presented Hasso with a plan for him to spend $50M, to not get more competitive, but add a single late first and a mid/late second in ‘25 I’m pretty sure Hasso would tell him to look for another job.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin à 7 h 16
Sujet: Isles Cap Shenanigans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jamnjon</b></div><div>The league blocks this. While I don't believe it's explicitly stated in the CBA, they have the catch-all "anything we deem circumvention" rule. I'm drawing a blank on it now, but after the lockout in 2012 there were a few stories about a team looking into doing this with their compliance buyout (no cap penalty) and having it blocked by the league.

From the wikipedia article on compliance buyouts:


I get that this is slightly different since at least some team has cap penalties for the player but I can't see it being permitted here either because the purpose is clearly the same.</div></div>

Not that ima sit here and say anyone is wrong to doubt this is possible. It is, indeed, a shenanigan. That being said, if a pair of GMs had the brass ones to try this I think it’s gotta stand, as:

A) As you said, and as far as I can tell, there is no rule that prevents this from happening.

B) There’s no free lunch, one team is absorbing the entire brunt of the buyout, and the original team still needs to sign the players back. IMO this is materially different from the compliance buyouts as there is cap penalties being applied within the system.

C) All other teams would have the opportunity block this from happening by claiming either player as they must go through waivers prior to the buyout being enacted. Similarly as the players would be part of the UFA pool they could be signed by any team. In short all teams have the ability to either forcefully stop this by claiming the contract on waivers; or outbid the players original team in the UFA market.

Mostly, I think this doesn’t happen because what player holding an NTC would willingly waive it on the odd chance they get claimed by their least favored destination.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin à 4 h 31
Sujet: Isles Cap Shenanigans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RecycleShark</b></div><div>Why buy out Lee and Pageau? Just keep them. I think they could both be good fits for the Sharks, especially Lee. Lee and Celebrini could be like Foligno and Bedard. Lee could be a great mentor and protector for young Sharks. We coukd use a power forward. Pageau could be 3C if Couture can't come back and Bords and Smith aren't ready. If you buy them out, you just spread their cap hits over more years. If you keep them their cap hits go away before our young stars ELC's expire and we need the cap space.</div></div>

I don’t disagree. This scenario is more around if the Isles actually wanted to retain both players but also free up cap space. It’s kinda a fantasy land hypothetical, as I couldn’t see both players waiving to go to San Jose then waivers where they could be picked up, hypothetically, by any team. However, if they did make it through waivers they could sign new contracts with the Islanders at a greatly reduced cap hit. On the other hand, I think it could work because the buyout period is before the draft and free agency and both contracts aren’t particularly good value cap-wise, and teams are likely making plans to sign their own players and free agents and don’t have $5-7M laying around to add Lee or Pageau from the waiver wire.

Islanders get $9M in cap space, keep Lee and Pageau at a combined $3M cap hit, and both players don’t have to move their life and get all the money from their current contracts.

From the Sharks perspective they get the 1st and an additional 2nd. The 3rd/4th year cap hits of the buyouts are $3M each year combined for both players; so not terribly constraining.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin à 2 h 49
Sujet: Prospects fighting for an NHL Spot this year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>He was solid, but he was there 1. because he wouldn't have signed if he didn't go straight to the NHL to end the season, and 2. because literally the entire team was injured.

There's a lot of competition now with the amount of prospects they have pushing for spots, especially with Smith already signed and Celebrini likely to sign</div></div>

It’s pretty typical formula, at least with the Sharks, to get a college FA signing enough games immediately after signing to burn the first year of the ELC and then start them in the AHL the following season. Graf showed some things after signing, he’s definitely got some deception, smarts, and patience to his game. But he’s also got a lot to work on and needs to fill out his frame some more to be really effective at the NHL level. He’s just far too easy to knock off the puck.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 juin à 13 h 49
Sujet: moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boodin</b></div><div>what if korpi wasnt involved in trade is a late 1st&amp;4th + joseph sufficient for granlund + blackwood</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Yeah, I could live with it if you take Granny out</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>I mean value wise it's probably fair but if Granlund is getting moved I'd prefer to wait until the deadline. He's been great in the development of Eklund and Zetterlund. He'll take some tough matchups away from Smith/Celebrini next season as well</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sjbackseatgm</b></div><div>Agree but this is pretty tempting</div></div>

As a Sharks fan, I also agree that the trade is lopsided in favor of Ottawa. According to <a href="https://puckpedia.com/CapRelief?cap_relief_team=ottawa-senators&amp;cap_relief_player=4836" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Perri Cap Savings</a> calculator Korpisalo’s contract should cost slightly more that #25 (BOS) + #39 (OTT) as a cap dump.

I also think the Sharks don’t look at moving Granlund until the deadline as they are very short on veteran centers to insulate Celebrini and Smith. With Couture questionable to return, Granlund would be their only vet capable of centering a top-6 line.

OP if you’re looking for cap relief, would you do any of:
- Korpisalo + #25 + #39 for Blackwood + #85
(Favors Ottawa by roughly the value of a high 2nd)

- Korpisalo + #7 + #39 for Blackwood + #14
(Favors Ottawa by roughly the value of a mid 2nd)

- Korpisalo + #7 for Blackwood + #33 + #42
(Favors Ottawa by roughly the value of a 3rd)
Forum: Armchair-GM7 juin à 0 h 26
Sujet: Grier Shocks as SJ Sign Guentzel Walker Get Kakko Sign Montour Henrique to 1yr
As a Sharks fan, I don’t think Guentzel is the move. He’s a fine player, but he’s top of the UFA class and despite Marek’s fever dream the Sharks are not a good fit for him. He should be looking to sign on to a team that is closer to competing for Cups.

As much as I like Montour and Henrique, I don’t think they’re signing on a last place team that neither has ties to for a single season, just to be on the same team, when they can just go on a fishing trip in the off-season and crack some champagne over their multi-year contracts from separate teams.

As others have said here, the Sharks should practice patience and carry out the rebuild instead of blowing their cap load in one off season. I think the move this season should be, in order of importance:

1. Improve puck moving from the backend, the right side of their defense is currently a black hole.
2. Add a top 6 / middle six forward that provides and additional scoring threat on a 2-3 year contract.
3. Insurance in case Couture is donezo; ideally someone who can play either wing or center on a third line with Smith.