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Forum: Armchair-GM1 mai 2019 à 2 h 13
Forum: Armchair-GM7 avr. 2019 à 3 h 42
Sujet: McDavid for Matthews - WILL IT GO THROUGH
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div><strong>I think you guys need to actually look at (comparable) stats before you scream .....</strong>

McDavid plays 4.5 minutes per night more than Matthews + he gets 1 extra minute of PP time.
Him and Drai play more than any other forwards in the league (forward depth issues?)

Below are "all situation" production stats (I didn't include even-strength or primary-point stats ... but they do make Matthews look better than these one):

<strong>2018-19 SEASON</strong>

Points Per 60 Minutes | McDavid = <strong>3.951</strong> = <strong>3rd</strong> in the NHL
Points Per 60 Minutes | Matthews = <strong>3.531</strong> = <strong>10th</strong> in the NHL

Goals Per 60 Minutes | Matthews = <strong>1.815</strong> = <strong>3rd</strong> in the NHL
Goals Per 60 Minutes | McDavid = <strong>1.408</strong> = <strong>27th</strong> in the NHL

<strong>2017-18 SEASON</strong>

Points Per 60 Minutes | McDavid = <strong>3.669</strong> = <strong>6th</strong> in the NHL
Points Per 60 Minutes | Matthews = <strong>3.363</strong> = <strong>10th</strong> in the NHL

Goals Per 60 Minutes | Matthews = <strong>1.815</strong> = <strong>2nd</strong> in the NHL
Goals Per 60 Minutes | N. Kadri = <strong>1.432</strong> = <strong>19th</strong> in the NHL <strong>(bonus)</strong>
Goals Per 60 Minutes | McDavid = <strong>1.393</strong> = <strong>26th</strong> in the NHL

<strong>2016-17 SEASON</strong>

Points Per 60 Minutes | McDavid = <strong>3.464</strong> = <strong>5th</strong> in the NHL
Points Per 60 Minutes | Matthews = <strong>2.866</strong> = <strong>15th</strong> in the NHL <strong>(rookie)</strong>

Goals Per 60 Minutes | Matthews = <strong>1.661</strong> = <strong>4th</strong> in the NHL <strong>(rookie)</strong>
Goals Per 60 Minutes | N.Kadri = <strong>1.413</strong> = <strong>18th</strong> in the NHL <strong>(bonus)</strong>
Goals Per 60 Minutes | McDavid = <strong>1.039</strong> = <strong>77th</strong> in the NHL
Goals Per 60 Minutes | C.Brown = <strong>0.902</strong> = <strong>106th</strong> in the NHL <strong>(bonus + rookie)</strong>

<strong>So when we look purely at overall point production as everyone is suggesting .... they're quite evenly matched.</strong>

- Matthews scores more and McDavid gets more points.
- I think points are more important than goals (check for McDavid)
- But the scoring gap has been wider than the point gap over 3 years (check for Matthews)
- Kadri has also scored at a higher rate than McDavid over the past 3 seasons.

<strong>With that in mind:</strong>

1. Matthews <strong>even strength production</strong> looks better than this (when compared to McDavid).
2. Matthews <strong>primary point production</strong> looks better than this (when compared to McDavid).
3. Matthews <strong>advanced defensive stats</strong> look better than this (when compared to McDavid).
4. Over the past 3 seasons <strong>Kadri </strong>has out produced every Oiler except McDavid + Draisaitl (with 3 more years at 4.5M).
5. Over the past 3 seasons <strong>Brown </strong>has out produced every Oiler except McDavid + Draisaitl + RNH (for 2.1M + RFA expiry).
6. Matthews + Kadri + Brown would have all been among the Oilers best defensive forwards during this period.

So ya ... this trade should make the Oilers better right now and in the future (Matthews is younger than McDavid and there are added futures).

And it's fair to state that points don't grow linearly with ice-time .... but they'll clearly jump with an extra minute of PP time and 25% more TOI.

FINAL NOTE: Kadri is not "crap" .... he's as good as RNH (I watch both). Babcock shoved him into a shut-down role and he does it well.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div>Ma Man... the "expected goal range" was 70-90 goals from these 3 .... and they've averaged exactly <strong>79</strong> over 3 years.

With 6 (combined) games left in the season .... the trend projects them to average exactly <strong>80</strong> goals by this seasons end.


<strong>Matthews </strong>= <strong>38</strong> goal average over the last 3 seasons (while only averaging 70 games)
<strong>Kadri </strong>= <strong>27</strong> goal average over the last 3 seasons.
<strong>Brown </strong>= <strong>14</strong> goal average over the last 3 seasons.


And if Matthews didn't miss 36 games than their average would have been <strong>87 </strong>goals combined.

<strong>So a 70-90 range is not a stretch</strong> .... it's actually quite conservative considering I assumed McDavid would stay 100% healthy.

But I guess haters gonna hate.</div></div>

Lol. I love how you just left out assists as a whole. BTW, p/60 is a dumb stat. McDavid pks. When players play more they get tired. Otherwise good players will play the entire game. McDavid&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Matthews. Why don't we look at actual stats? McDavid has finished 1, 1, and 2 in the past 3 years. Matthews is yet to crack 80 points. And Nuge &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Kadri. Nuge also plays a shut down role and just finished the year with 70 points, playing with wingers like Chiasson and Lucic. Haters hating because of your dumb posts. Honestly, I cannot believe you spent the time making that post. Bye.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 mars 2019 à 2 h 41
Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars 2019 à 3 h 29
Sujet: 2020 Team Summer Plan- PLAYOFFFSSS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>biglite351</b></div><div>Do Oiler fans realize that Puljujarvi has zero value (maybe a 4th to a desperate GM) and if you want to move Lucic you are going to be giving 1st/prospects and getting nothing in return?

In the trade above it would be more like: Lucic, Puljujarvi, Benson, 1st to NYR for a 3rd. No Kreider. Benson and the 1st to take Lucic without retention, the 3rd as a gift for Puljujarvi and a little makeup for the 1st. The 1st can be protected to some level.</div></div>

This is so dumb. Dylan Strome was <em>21</em> and with a small add he returned Nick Schmaltz, a young 40-50 point center. Pulju is 20, and has accomplished more than Strome at the same point in their careers. And it looks like his balance and boardwork issues were due to a hip issue which he is getting fixed. In the preseason he was a beast, before he had his hip issues.

We don't need to add more than Pulju to dump Lucic. Benson is a great prospect, and the 1st speaks for itself. I'm tired of hearing these uninformed posters on capfriendly trying to establish their own value for Pulju and Lucic.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 févr. 2019 à 4 h 47
Sujet: Lets say we cant re-sign Kappy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>Oilers should take it, they traded backup NHLer for AHL goalie.. maybe add higher pick from Toronto, 2nd rounder.. Brown might be the best winger Oilers would have and he has long lasting chemistry with Brown who was his linemate for 2 seasons in junior.. Larsson has negative value this season as well.. this trade would be the needed change of scenery for both of them.. Zaitsev doesnt have negative value, he has low value thats true for sure. Since he is not with Gardiner he is very solid and more confident and I feel that more happy as well. He was misplayed the whole time and since with Muzzin or Dermott, he was maybe our best D on defensive side of things and he isnt even supposed to be defensive defenceman when he came into the league.. His contract might be a bit longer but he would be a good good piece for Edmonton.. he is not the sharpest skater, not the best defenceman in the world but he is a good defenceman and change of scenery would definitely help him. Also Brown should be Oilers target if they want to become any good.. he has heart and hustle and scoring ability to be best winger on Oilers.. none of Oilers wingers would make the Leafs, some of them maybe 4th line role.. they should take it!</div></div>


I can't believe you just wrote an entire paragraph trying to justify that trade. It is terrible. Oilers say hell no. Quality &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Quantity.

You can't just package a meh winger, a cap dump, and a low pick and hope it has some value. This isn't NHL 19.