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Forum: Armchair-GM1 nov. 2023 à 12 h 4
Sujet: Way to much work valuing Weegar in a Trade
My big problem with the comparables you used (minus Ekholm) is that they were all in their early or mid 20's at the time of those trades. The acquiring team in those trades were buying those players' prime years which wouldn't be the case for Weegar at 30.

The reason Weegar's value is so unclear is because he is in a fairly unique situation with few to no comps. Players don't usually get traded with 7 or 8 years of term left and usually the selling team is motivated by a pressure point to resolve the situation. Hamilton had just completed his ELC and clearly the team and player didn't see eye-to-eye on his role and compensation moving forward. Eichel needed surgery to play and the team and player couldn't agree on what treatment he should have. Jones was entering his pending UFA season on a rebuilding team. Chychrun had been asking to be traded for over a year, had trade protection coming up in his contract and was playing well leading into the trade deadline. Arizona probably felt he was at peak value and didn't want to risk an injury if they kept him until the offseason.

I personally think the most likely outcome would be a good old-fashioned "Hockey Trade" or an Ekholm or Trouba style trade where a team upgrades their defence at the cost of 1st/prospect combo.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 août 2023 à 13 h 38
Forum: Armchair-GM14 août 2022 à 17 h 0
Sujet: Miller for Necas and Bear
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nintendofan721</b></div><div>We’re not trading Necas for a rental, plus we just got him signed recently so no way they do this.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>spockrock</b></div><div>They just signed Necas to a bridge. Please explain how he’s not in their plans?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>First of all, Canes pass on that trade since they won’t trade Necas for a rental, especially since they just signed Necas. Second, Patches is only expected to be out until the All Star Break, and Waddell has also stated that he “won’t Kucherov Patches.” Third, Bertuzzi or JVR would both be more realistic acquisitions than Miller, as they wouldn’t require that much going the other way and both could get their contracts retained down to sub 2mil to make the money work when Patches does come back.</div></div>

Thanks for the input, gentlemen.

I've read numerous articles speculating about Necas and quoting a variety of statements Waddell has made, none of which were absolute "we aren't thinking about trading him," and I think that the fact that the Hurricanes signed him to a bridge deal makes it more, not less, likely that he'd be traded. But I can certainly see why Caniacs would hate to see him go, and all of the speculation preceded his re-signing, so I can also see that the theory that he's potentially available is "no longer operative."
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2022 à 12 h 1
Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2022 à 9 h 38
Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin 2022 à 21 h 19
Sujet: Retool 2point0
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bdb</b></div><div>An extended Miller would provide much more value in the next 5 years than Severson. While the 2nd overall is steep, the player picked likely isn't going to be a superstar so I don't actually think the difference between Miller +15 OA and Severson + 2OA is very significant one way or another, although I think Miller is a significantly more valuable player than Severson.

After reading Jfresh's valuation of Miller at Holtz, Graves, Zacha and a 3rd from NJ I figured this was close.

I also see Hoglander to have a much greater ceiling than McLeod and the 2nd reflects that.

In terms of likelihood, you are correct but that's not really the fun of the site.</div></div>

Whether Severson is valued above Miller for one year or not, Devils would be extending Severson and not likely to extend Miller.

I think Miller ultimately goes to NYI. Severson stays out.