JT Miller

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Créé par: KDev

Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey

Date de création initiale: 5 juill. 2022

Publié: 5 juill. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

100% going to get shredded in the comments by canuckle heads but I just don’t see any way they will get the value for Miller their fans are expecting. Especially with what Fiala got, a guy who still was under team control and was still young. Miller is past his prime and due a huge raise.

From a Devils perspective, I have started to grow on the idea of JT Miller in the top 6. I think he would excel on Hughes or hischiers wing and would be a leader in the locker room. Is he worth 2OA or Holtz or Mercer or even our 1st next year? Yeahhhhhh no.

Highly doubt these teams could come to an agreement regardless, just wanted to see what it’d look like and my personal valuation of Miller

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Bratt, Jesper	6	6 750 000 $
Wood, Miles	2	3 000 000 $
Zetterlund, Fabian	2	900 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Gagner, Sam		2	1 500 000 $
Holtby, Braden		2	2 650 000 $

Transactions

NJD

Fitzgerald, Casey
Portillo, Erik [Liste de réserve]

Détails additionnels:

Devils get a target a solid G prospect since Buffalo is loaded with UPL, Portillo and Levi in the system, and the GM gets his son

BUF

Thompson, Tyce [Droits de RFA]
Zacha, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Tage Thompson gets his brother and Zacha is a good case for a change of scenery and could end up becoming a pretty solid value pickup for Buffalo

NJD

Miller, J.T.

Détails additionnels:

Miller signs a 5 year extension at 7.5 aav

VAN

Bahl, Kevin
Boqvist, Jesper [Droits de RFA]
Gritsyuk, Arseni [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

I know canuckle heads will think this is scraps but Gritsyuk is a top 5 prospect in the devils org and the best forward prospect behind Holtz, Bahl is a giant 6’7 Defender who is on the bubble of emerging onto the bottom pair this year, and Boqvist really found himself last year and is showing the top 6 potential he showed when he was drafted.

I think this is a pretty fair offer but I understand y’all truly think you can get more

Rachats de contrats

Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $

Frais appliqués

Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	78 755 000 $	0 $	932 500 $	3 745 000 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Miller, J.T. 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Hughes, Jack 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C UFA - 8	Bratt, Jesper 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Sharangovich, Yegor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Hischier, Nico 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ C UFA - 5	Mercer, Dawson 894 167 $894 167 $ (400 000 $$400K) AD, C RFA - 2
Tatar, Tomas 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Gagner, Sam 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Zetterlund, Fabian 900 000 $900 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Wood, Miles 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG UFA - 1	McLeod, Michael 975 000 $975 000 $ C UFA - 1	Bastian, Nathan 825 000 $825 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Graves, Ryan 3 166 667 $3 166 667 $ DG UFA - 1	Hamilton, Dougie 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	Blackwood, Mackenzie 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Siegenthaler, Jonas 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Severson, Damon 4 166 666 $4 166 666 $ DD UFA - 1
Smith, Ty 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Fitzgerald, Casey 750 000 $750 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Holtby, Braden 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ G UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Kuokkanen, Janne 1 825 000 $1 825 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Bernier, Jonathan 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ G UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Okhotiuk, Nikita 789 167 $789 167 $ (132 500 $$132K) DG RFA - 2

5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 28

mv21227

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Canucks easily get more and Miller will want more money. Gritsyuk is nice but the rest of the package lacks the quality needed

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5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 30

majormoose007

MajorMoose

Rejoint: févr. 2019

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Not going to get into the trade but if Miller wanted that contract he'd already be extended. You have to bump it up to 8.5 x 6 at minimum

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5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 31

stennybro

Im here to party

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just here to confirm that if that was the deal Miller takes, he'd have an extension in place with Vancouver.

And yeah, I'd like to think they would find a trade with a better center piece

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5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 32

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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Sorry, I think it's at terrible idea to have a young player in the same organization as his GM father.
Might be fair deal for Miller but do the Devils really want a 29 year old Miller for six years?

5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 33

DevilsFanZack13

Devils Guy

Rejoint: août 2020

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NJ says yes to that Miller trade. We'll even drive from NJ to Vancouver to pick him up. No plane involved.

5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 38

TheAlien

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You're gonna have to give up one of Bratt, Holtz, or 2OA

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5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 49

KDev

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Quoting: TheAlien

You're gonna have to give up one of Bratt, Holtz, or 2OA

I can personally guarantee you will never get that value for Miller.

Quoting: stennybro

just here to confirm that if that was the deal Miller takes, he'd have an extension in place with Vancouver.

And yeah, I'd like to think they would find a trade with a better center piece

That’s fair, tbh a long term extension for Miller scares me and I think many teams as well, I don’t see him getting more than 6 years, you are probably right about him getting a higher aav though.
About the centerpiece, it’s also understandable, I think there are better are teams willing to ante up 1 or more high quality assets,I don’t see the devils being one of them though I do feel the offer I placed is fair, I still doubt it’d be the best offer Vancouver gets

stennybro et JackHughesELITE a aimé ceci.

5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 50

stennybro

Im here to party

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Quoting: KDev

I can personally guarantee you will never get that value for Miller.

That’s fair, tbh a long term extension for Miller scares me and I think many teams as well, I don’t see him getting more than 6 years, you are probably right about him getting a higher aav though.
About the centerpiece, it’s also understandable, I think there are better are teams willing to ante up 1 or more high quality assets,I don’t see the devils being one of them though I do feel the offer I placed is fair, I still doubt it’d be the best offer Vancouver gets

Can you rank the order in which NJ would move these assets?

#2 Overall
Holtz
Bratt
Mercer

Maybe go most likely moved, to least likely moved. Obviously, this isn't in a Miller trade, just wanna know who is the most available compared to least available.

5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 51

theleano1

luongo cup champion

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Canucks pass, package doesn't move the needle

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5 juill. 2022 à 22 h 57

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The_Rocket

Judd Bracket ripoff

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Might want to read the Forum rules bud:

“ TROLLING
Posting a thread or a reply to a thread that's sole purpose is to start an argument is not permitted on CapFriendly.”

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5 juill. 2022 à 23 h 0

#11

Mediumyeet

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Honestly it's not a bad offer if the Canucks decide to go quantity over quality route but that 2nd round pick would HAVE to be a 2023 1st instead.

Actually very similar to the Taylor Hall trade at the deadline from NJ to Arizona. Which happened to involve Bahl as well.
NJ got back:
1st (drafted Mercer with it)
Conditional 3rd (traded it for Siegenthaler)
Bahl
Shnarr
Merkley

You would definitely have to up the Miller contract. Probably 9mil minimum if it's a 6yr deal.

KDev a aimé ceci.

5 juill. 2022 à 23 h 31

#12

KDev

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Quoting: stennybro

From least likely at the top
Bratt
Mercer
2OA
Holtz

5 juill. 2022 à 23 h 35

#13

F50marco

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The whole point of this forum is to debate these very things. Until it happens we are all just guessing. No one is right or wrong.

I personally think they'll get a better return than that but it will involve mostly better quality but less of it instead of more quantity but less valuable ones.

KDev a aimé ceci.

6 juill. 2022 à 1 h 14

#14

Aasen6

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Lol. Canucks counter with Poolman, ferland and Jett woo for jack Hughes. Since woo is near the top of our prospect list according to you that means he has insane value so should easily be accepted by jersey.

Knuckl3s a aimé ceci.

6 juill. 2022 à 8 h 25

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KDev

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Quoting: Aasen6

Not even close to the same thing but go off buddy

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