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Josh4

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Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin 2023 à 21 h 10
Forum: Armchair-GM26 mai 2023 à 17 h 41
Sujet: Trading Matthews to LA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Josh4</b></div><div>My point is I don't see what Toronto would want from LA that's fair value that's not Clarke. I doubt Toronto want's several players that can'f fit in there roster. LA won't be the only team interested. Literally almost every team in the leauge will be. This isn't a patty kane/claude giroux situation where they can trade him to one team only. I also don't agree that they will automatically trade him even if he is undecided on resigning. The leafs would for sure shop him but if the value is not there, they'll just run it back with him for his last year. It's not unheard of for teams to go into the last year of there stars contract without an extension and risk him walking (stamkos, JT). Matthews is a proven top 5 player, Clarke is a NHL prosepct that hasn't proven anything at the NHL level, could be a bust or could be a superstar, there's risk there. I'd except the trade to be Clarke ++ for Matthews. The trade posted here would be realistic trade value for AM.

Whether LA has an extention means nothing to Toronto, but means everything to LA. Toronto has there minimum return they expect for him. If LA doesn't meet that then the leafs trade him elsewhere or keep him.</div></div>

The problem with your POV is you can't understand that Matthews trade value is purely as a rental in every possible scenario and LA is not going to move Clarke (or Byfield) for a rental.

Also Matthews has a Full NTC kicking in on July 1st so it could absolutely be the same as Kane or Giroux.

I agree that Toronto's best course of action is to not trade him at all and try as hard as they can to extend him, but you have to understand that 1) Matthews can not discuss contract extensions prior to July 1st, and 2) Matthew holds pretty much all the cards after July 1st.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2023 à 22 h 24
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mai 2023 à 15 h 16
Sujet: Boone jenner trade value Is he a landy replacement
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bcooke</b></div><div>Love this idea as well, but price is steeper than that. Probably 1st + Newhook + more. I don't really understand why he is considered untouchable. Sure he is a really good player, but not quite at the level I would consider untouchable. I know Columbus was bad, but a 29 year old putting up a 45 point, -32 differential in 68 games doesn't scream untouchable to me.

For reference, 2016-17 Avs season was arguably worse than Columbus this year. The 3 guys that Avs would consider untouchable in that season produced the following:
MacKinnon - Age 21, 53 points, -14 differential in 82 games
Rantanen - Age 20, 38 points, -25 differential in 75 games (1st full season in NHL)
Landeskog - Age 24, 33 points, -25 differential in 72 games

Similar or worse production while being significantly older than those 3 were at the time. Add in the fact that he's not on the same timeline that Johnson, Sillinger, and 3OA are on, it doesn't make sense to me that he would be untouchable. But CBJ fans are welcome to flame this if they want.</div></div>

The point isn't that he's the best player on the team. It's the intangibles. Even terrible teams who deserve to be contracted like most Colorado fans think of Columbus need leadership. You think Johnny Gaudreau's captain material? lol. Jenner took an extremely team-friendly contract to stay and be captain of the Blue Jackets. He wants to be here, which is more than you can say for a lot of guys. It's a cliche, but his value to Columbus simply exceeds his trade value for any other team.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mai 2023 à 15 h 7
Sujet: Boone jenner trade value Is he a landy replacement
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ArakinSkywalker</b></div><div>Love the idea, the only thing i've noticed on this site though is no CBJ fans want to move him so it might be a steep price</div></div>

Love this idea as well, but price is steeper than that. Probably 1st + Newhook + more. I don't really understand why he is considered untouchable. Sure he is a really good player, but not quite at the level I would consider untouchable. I know Columbus was bad, but a 29 year old putting up a 45 point, -32 differential in 68 games doesn't scream untouchable to me.

For reference, 2016-17 Avs season was arguably worse than Columbus this year. The 3 guys that Avs would consider untouchable in that season produced the following:
MacKinnon - Age 21, 53 points, -14 differential in 82 games
Rantanen - Age 20, 38 points, -25 differential in 75 games (1st full season in NHL)
Landeskog - Age 24, 33 points, -25 differential in 72 games

Similar or worse production while being significantly older than those 3 were at the time. Add in the fact that he's not on the same timeline that Johnson, Sillinger, and 3OA are on, it doesn't make sense to me that he would be untouchable. But CBJ fans are welcome to flame this if they want.