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JTBF81

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Forum: Tampa Bay Lightning29 juin 2023 à 18 h 38
Sujet: 2023 Lightning Offseason Discussion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>It's unfortunate that because they went out and paid that ridiculous price for Jeannot, and now of course won't get rid of him because of it, that the cap wasn't there apparently for Colton and probabaly not there for Killorn. Having either Killorn or Colton moving ahead would seem to be far better than seeing Jeannot on the team.</div></div>

Agreed. The worst case scenario in my mind now is if Killorn doesn't resign, and Jeannot gets way more money than everyone is anticipating. I still am reserving judgement on Jeannot, along with other reasonable people. Yeah Julien gave up a boatload, but TJ will have a great opportunity to prove his worth this year. But yeah I wouldve much rather preferred to keep Colton. Jeannot would have been nice to get, if it wasn't for so damn much
Forum: Tampa Bay Lightning28 juin 2023 à 17 h 7
Sujet: 2023 Lightning Offseason Discussion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>Do you have some news on him staying? I haven't seen anything is all, but I really hope that's the case(as it would make the big L taken on the RC trade much less of one.</div></div>

No. Sorry, that comment was somewhat misleading. Based on what I took from this tweet, and the fact he moved Colton, it seems infinitely more likely than before that he resigns


<div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Lightning pitched Alex Killorn a long-term offer at a low AAV to stay in Tampa, but it doesn’t sound like that’ll get it done. As of now, he’s likely hitting the market July 1 unless TB can move money.</p>— David Pagnotta (@TheFourthPeriod) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod/status/1673768697956016147?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">June 27, 2023</a></blockquote>

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Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2023 à 6 h 30
Sujet: Colton trade and no Killorn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>He's only middle 6 because he's been stuck on the 3rd line so far. Most of his underlying numbers indicate top 6 ability, and he should get that role now. He's a better player than Newhook(I wouldn't say far better), and like with Colorado, Tampa doesn't have to trade him and would only do so if they received a pretty good offer that met what they needed.</div></div>

Colton does have great underlying numbers that suggest he could be a top 6 guy perhaps or top 9 but he's already established as a middle 6 guy. If he can do more that's great but the expectation of him isn't going to be that. So it's going to be contenders (like TB) who would be paying high price for him. Newhook on the other hand, needs to establish himself as a top 6 player, if he can't then he's going to need to establish himself as a middle 6 or bottom pairing guy, his production would be irrelevant without being able to play defense or kill penalties and the like.

So, even if they both turn out to be in top 6 roles, they are really two different types of players with different expectations, so their perceived value is going to be based off of different factors.

Slim chance that TB trades him for futures in ny opinion unless they know they can turn those futures into something better within the offseason. He's the type of player that they would pay up to get.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 juin 2023 à 18 h 13
Sujet: Colton out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>Broberg is a solid young dman, but that's a hefty acquisition cost for him. While I still don't believe Killorn is staying in Tampa, and the team will re-sign Colton instead, if he was traded then I'd consider going with the type of deal I've been discussing with different Pittsburgh fans on here. Tampa would get POJ+one of O'Connor/Nylander/Puustinen/Poehling for Colton+Fleury+possibly the '24 4th(depending on which secondary piece from Pittsburgh). It seems like a reasonable trade for both sides, and one where Tampa isn't giving up one of their better prospects and extra picks, in addition to Colton of course.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>Colton is Broberg plus. 20.6 g/82pkaying 12:15 and a proven playoff performer ok tell yourself whatever you have to to justify this utter garbage.
Colton over the last 2 seasons 1.14 goals per 60
Playing with 3/4th liners compared to say
Tavares. 1.12
Kubalik .9
Marchand 1.16
Panerin 1.00
He may be the most underrated player on CF.</div></div>

I agree that colton is extremely underrated but I think him and broberg are worth the same, probably both worth around a 1st and a 3rd. I would rather just keep colton and try using other assets to acquire broberg who I think could have a ton of potential in our system
Forum: Armchair-GM25 juin 2023 à 13 h 55
Sujet: Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HeadHighSauce</b></div><div>Yeah man, shayna, a national analytics and fantasy writer, probably hasn’t followed the team that’s been in 3/4 most recent cup finals. Good call bud</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tbrew</b></div><div>Except TBL has made 11 trades around draft picks being received over the last 4 years</div></div>

While the analytics may say that a 2nd rounder is a good return for Colton, this has little to do with the reality of building an actual roster. Trading Colton for a pick makes Tampa a weaker team headed into next season. They are in full blown "win now" mode. This has been discussed at nauseam on this site, but Tampa is going to make the deal that brings them the best possible NHL roster player(s) over a pick 10 times out of 10. Regardless of what Shatna's algorithms may say.
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