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Restore the Shore and robbinsville

Créé par: HeadHighSauce
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 25 juin 2023
Publié: 25 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Whole crew hitting Leggetts
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RFAANSCAP HIT
43 500 000 $
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31 250 000 $
31 750 000 $
88 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
11 500 000 $
Transactions
NJD
  1. Colton, Ross [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Return from Shayna Goldman suggestion in The Athletic
TBL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
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25 juin 2023 à 11 h 44
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Stop trying to make the Shore a thing
25 juin 2023 à 11 h 44
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The athletic can go f themselves if they think this is close Bhahahahahahaha.
Colton STARTS WITH BAHL OR NJ CAN POUND SAND
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25 juin 2023 à 11 h 47
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The athletic can go f themselves if they think this is close Bhahahahahahaha.
Colton STARTS WITH BAHL OR NJ CAN POUND SAND


What a rational response
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25 juin 2023 à 11 h 49
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
The athletic can go f themselves if they think this is close Bhahahahahahaha.
Colton STARTS WITH BAHL OR NJ CAN POUND SAND


I’ll pass on your message.
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25 juin 2023 à 11 h 51
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Stop trying to make the Shore a thing


The 3 non-Bahl, sorry *non-Colton, players played in the Shore conference!
25 juin 2023 à 11 h 59
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What a rational response


What does Julien Brisebois have to do to prove to people he doesn't value picks? This is an utterly useless return for TB. What rational person believes this would be accepted by TB?
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25 juin 2023 à 12 h 3
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What does Julien Brisebois have to do to prove to people he doesn't value picks? This is an utterly useless return for TB. What rational person believes this would be accepted by TB?

Shayna Goldman, apparently. I’d call her rational
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25 juin 2023 à 12 h 4
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. What rational person believes this would be accepted by TB?


Shayna Goldman.
25 juin 2023 à 12 h 4
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Shayna Goldman, apparently. I’d call her rational


Then she has completely not payed any attention to TB over the last 4 years because anyone who believes that is a complete moron.
25 juin 2023 à 12 h 23
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
Then she has completely not payed any attention to TB over the last 4 years because anyone who believes that is a complete moron.


Yeah man, shayna, a national analytics and fantasy writer, probably hasn’t followed the team that’s been in 3/4 most recent cup finals. Good call bud
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25 juin 2023 à 12 h 27
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Then she has completely not payed any attention to TB over the last 4 years because anyone who believes that is a complete moron.


Except TBL has made 11 trades around draft picks being received over the last 4 years
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25 juin 2023 à 12 h 55
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It's a very easy decline from Tampa. A 2nd round pick both does nothing for Tampa now, and it isn't enough anyway. It's great that a writer for the Athletic believes he may be worth something, and when they are an actual GM dealing with Tampa, Tampa fans might care. Tampa is very likely not trading Colton anyway, but if they were to, it would be for the deal they want, not accepting a mediocre return. If N.J. wants him, Tampa would consider it for Bahl+either Boqvist or McLeod, in exchange for Colton+Fleury+mid round pick/B prospect. If Bahl isn't available, Tampa moves on to.another team.
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25 juin 2023 à 13 h 31
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It's a very easy decline from Tampa. A 2nd round pick both does nothing for Tampa now, and it isn't enough anyway. It's great that a writer for the Athletic believes he may be worth something, and when they are an actual GM dealing with Tampa, Tampa fans might care. Tampa is very likely not trading Colton anyway, but if they were to, it would be for the deal they want, not accepting a mediocre return. If N.J. wants him, Tampa would consider it for Bahl+either Boqvist or McLeod, in exchange for Colton+Fleury+mid round pick/B prospect. If Bahl isn't available, Tampa moves on to.another team.


Lmk how that goes smile
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25 juin 2023 à 13 h 49
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Except TBL has made 11 trades around draft picks being received over the last 4 years


Too be fair, almost every one of those 11 trades were deals involving nothing but pick swaps, or players Tampa traded away who were either AHL'ers or guys they weren't going to resign anyway. None of these scenarios apply to Colton.
25 juin 2023 à 13 h 50
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Too be fair, almost every one of those 11 trades were deals involving nothing but pick swaps, or players Tampa traded away who were either AHL'ers or guys they weren't going to resign anyway. None of these scenarios apply to Colton.


The claim was that TB doesn’t value picks
25 juin 2023 à 13 h 55
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Yeah man, shayna, a national analytics and fantasy writer, probably hasn’t followed the team that’s been in 3/4 most recent cup finals. Good call bud


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Except TBL has made 11 trades around draft picks being received over the last 4 years


While the analytics may say that a 2nd rounder is a good return for Colton, this has little to do with the reality of building an actual roster. Trading Colton for a pick makes Tampa a weaker team headed into next season. They are in full blown "win now" mode. This has been discussed at nauseam on this site, but Tampa is going to make the deal that brings them the best possible NHL roster player(s) over a pick 10 times out of 10. Regardless of what Shatna's algorithms may say.
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25 juin 2023 à 13 h 57
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The claim was that TB doesn’t value picks


Yes. Your correct. A more accurate take would probably be "doesn't value picks in trades for players off their current NHL roster". Which could be inferred since were discussing Colton.
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25 juin 2023 à 14 h 4
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While the analytics may say that a 2nd rounder is a good return for Colton, this has little to do with the reality of building an actual roster. Trading Colton for a pick makes Tampa a weaker team headed into next season. They are in full blown "win now" mode. This has been discussed at nauseam on this site, but Tampa is going to make the deal that brings them the best possible NHL roster player(s) over a pick 10 times out of 10. Regardless of what Shatna's algorithms may say.


This is a stunning misunderstanding of what Shayna does lmfao

Man every time a team needs to dump cap on this site, the home team fans always think they’ll be able to address their team needs in the process and it just never happens
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25 juin 2023 à 14 h 28
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Lmk how that goes smile


More likely than the latest trash offer for Colton from N.J. fans on here lol.
25 juin 2023 à 14 h 36
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More likely than the latest trash offer for Colton from N.J. fans on here lol.


What are Ross Colton’s trade comps?
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25 juin 2023 à 14 h 40
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While the analytics may say that a 2nd rounder is a good return for Colton, this has little to do with the reality of building an actual roster. Trading Colton for a pick makes Tampa a weaker team headed into next season. They are in full blown "win now" mode. This has been discussed at nauseam on this site, but Tampa is going to make the deal that brings them the best possible NHL roster player(s) over a pick 10 times out of 10. Regardless of what Shatna's algorithms may say.


100% agree. When fans of other teams realize thls(it does seem though that 90% of the less than adequate Colton trades on here are from N.J. posters), there may be more reasonable discussion on a potential Colton trade.
25 juin 2023 à 14 h 44
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100% agree. When fans of other teams realize thls(it does seem though that 90% of the less than adequate Colton trades on here are from N.J. posters), there may be more reasonable discussion on a potential Colton trade.


I feel like you need to see this too.

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This is a stunning misunderstanding of what Shayna does lmfao

Man every time a team needs to dump cap on this site, the home team fans always think they’ll be able to address their team needs in the process and it just never happens
25 juin 2023 à 14 h 45
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This is a stunning misunderstanding of what Shayna does lmfao

Man every time a team needs to dump cap on this site, the home team fans always think they’ll be able to address their team needs in the process and it just never happens


Except for the small little problem that Tampa.doesn't need to dump Colton, and therefore won't be giving him away. It's like fans of other teams thinking they know another team's situation better than they do and then getting belligerent when fans of said team don't agree to terrible offers
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25 juin 2023 à 14 h 46
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I feel like you need to see this too.


Except, that's right, Tampa doesn't have to move Colton; when you and other N.J. fans understand that, maybe there will be something to discuss.
25 juin 2023 à 14 h 53
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Except for the small little problem that Tampa.doesn't need to dump Colton, and therefore won't be giving him away. It's like fans of other teams thinking they know another team's situation better than they do and then getting belligerent when fans of said team don't agree to terrible offers


Okay, so when you consider the reports that Tampa is trying to extend Killorn and Colton has “priced himself out (3.5+), how does Tampa not need to dump him?
 
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